Current Affairs 2017 General Election

[Clint Planet]

Corbyn is cut from the same cloth as Bernie Sanders, who is just as much a populist as Trump is, but whereas Trump blames all ills on foreigners, populists on the left tend to blame all ills on the rich and big business.

Ills such as inequality and poverty? Blaming big business for not paying tax and exploiting workers with zero hours contracts? Pointing out that the super-rich are now more than twice as wealthy as before the crash whereas middle and low earners are much worse off? Suggesting that that means the banks caused the crash but they're getting us to pay for it?

The difference between blaming immigrants and arguing for a fairer, more accountable society is that the former is founded in lies and malice, the latter is not.

 

[Boss_Blue]

Anyone else massively impressed with Corbyn last night?

Even during the toughest part for him, facing the bloodlust addled Tories in the audience, I thought it reflected far worse on the audience members than Corbyn himself.

May I thought started okay (relative to how she has performed recently) but became increasingly edgy and uncomfortable as the questions went on.

 

[Kurt.]

No I haven't. But I'm pretty sure I'm saying the same thing as you - the budgets aren't sufficient which leads to 'solutions' like agency staff.

Jesus Christ mate you're boring..... are you ever wrong ?

 

[harris78]

Anyone else massively impressed with Corbyn last night?

Even during the toughest part for him, facing the bloodlust addled Tories in the audience, I thought it reflected far worse on the audience members than Corbyn himself.

May I thought started okay (relative to how she has performed recently) but became increasingly edgy and uncomfortable as the questions went on.

I agree with all you have said. Corbyn dealt really well with the frankly ridiculous questioning on Nuclear weapons. Ok i get ask the question once but when it gets to four separate occasions it frankly just makes the audience look like a baying mob. All other questions i thought he handled really well. Its good to actually see Corbyn on tv as he comes across as a very likeable man also, someone i think people can relate to.

May as you say started brightly but gets seems to make it all about herself and not the people...its almost like some personal crusade she is on rather than the people of the country. Very much the 'i will' 'i can' rather than the collective 'we'

 

[zzr45]

Jesus Christ mate you're boring..... are you ever wrong ?

Stick me on ignore then.

 

[Kurt.]

Stick me on ignore then.

Try debating with people instead of continously telling them that you're right and they are wrong. If you have all the answers why aren't you involved with the experts instead of telling all of us here how great you are.

 

[Gouldy]

Corbyn is cut from the same cloth as Bernie Sanders, who is just as much a populist as Trump is, but whereas Trump blames all ills on foreigners, populists on the left tend to blame all ills on the rich and big business.



I don't think May is really. Brexit was won based upon a version of right-wing populism, but I'm not sure May really believed in that. Now she's just coming across as a rank poor politician.

If you look at the grotesque levels of wealth inequality within the US, then you will see that Sanders is correct when he rallies against the top 1% who have purchased Congress and stacked the deck. The UK is slowly heading in that direction with increasing levels of wealth inequality, and an economy based on such burgeoning levels of inequality is simply unsustainable.

 

[zzr45]

Try debating with people instead of continously telling them that you're right and they are wrong. If you have all the answers why aren't you involved with the experts instead of telling all of us here how great you are.

Uh huh. Cos I'm the only person guilty of that in here.

 

[Kurt.]

Uh huh. Cos I'm the only person guilty of that in here.

I never said you were. Just accept some people have different views to your own and that you're not always right... as shown in the discussion on bank workers in the NHS.

 

[Number_25]

I believe in multilateral nuclear disarmament.

One would have thought that after the complete and utter muck up that was the intervention in Iraq - the vast majority of the British public would have preferred a PM that would approach difficult international matters with a calm, measured manner.

I think last night went well for both May and Corbyn, but I think Corbyn just edged it.

It's still all to play for, the sheer number of 'swing seats' this time around is heartening.

Just make sure you all get out to vote.

 

[orchard]

When you've both finished:


Who are you going to vote for Kurt, Plaid?

I never said you were. Just accept some people have different views to your own and that you're not always right... as shown in the discussion on bank workers in the NHS.

 

[Kurt.]

When you've both finished:


Who are you going to vote for Kurt, Plaid?

A vote for plaid is a wasted vote.

 

[Billy Dean]

Those carping about Corbyn on Trident are likely the same protesting against Iran obtaining nuclear weapons capability. You can't have it both ways.

 

[hullefc]

Labour/Corbyn will have to deal with the 'nuclear weapons' and 'pushing the button' as this will be the Tories project fear line of attack against him. In a way last night Corbyn when asked about, 'pushing the button' should have pointed out that a UK prime minister will have no say whatsoever, about launching nuclear from British soil. They are American and are at Greenham Common for example. The weapons the UK have are on the Trident submarines and are reliant on US know how and parts. Without the US the UK wouldn't have nuclear weapons.

And to claim that a British Prime Minister would launch a 'first strike' is absurd in the extreme. Who would they launch them against? Who is threatening the UK with nuclear obliteration? No British prime minister would launch first strike without the permission of the US.

Project fear mark 12 against Corbyn has been launched to give all the anti Corbyn people the opportunity to have a go at him.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

A vote for plaid is a wasted vote.

You wanted them added to the poll ffs