The gap in the polls is narrowing further and further. Could it happen? Could we actually pull this off? Could May let this slip?
Current Affairs 2017 General Election
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There's lots been said about Corbyn's stance on Irish matters. And I'm not going to get into them as they are mostly purely subjective, and none of us knew his mind when he acted as he did. And none of us can say accurately one way or another who or what he supported or didn't support. We all have our opinions on it and opinions is what they are.
There is one absolute lie being pedalled by Corbyn's supporters however, and that is that Corbyn was vital to the peace process. And that is pissing me off. He was not even involved. The SDLP said they never met him. He wasn't involved in any formal peace talks. He voted against the Anglo Irish Agreement (attempt to start up powersharing in 86). No one here had even heard of him prior to 18 months ago.
So basically don't try to bluff those of us who live here.
There is one absolute lie being pedalled by Corbyn's supporters however, and that is that Corbyn was vital to the peace process. And that is pissing me off. He was not even involved. The SDLP said they never met him. He wasn't involved in any formal peace talks. He voted against the Anglo Irish Agreement (attempt to start up powersharing in 86). No one here had even heard of him prior to 18 months ago.
So basically don't try to bluff those of us who live here.
roydo
in memoriam - 1965-2024
In fairness, just because the SDLP never met him, in the shadowy world of The Troubles, and MP, and an unknown one at that, having, lets say, a relationship, with SF, could well have been a useful conduit before any "open" negotiations began.
It did emerge that Thatchers lot had communications with SF, and by extension, the IRA for years.
I actually know for a fact, that there were usually "meetings" between the local ringleaders of the IRA and the Royal Marines before any RM tour of duty. Nothing formal, no minutes and that, just a few ground rules being arranged. Not that every one was kept to, but meetings were had.
I dont know if other units did that, doubt the Paras did, obviously. But the RM did.
I find it bizarre that any so called "crucial figure" in the peace process could actually not meet either of the 2 main parties at the time of the Good Friday agreement. Just my take tho.
roydo
in memoriam - 1965-2024
Like I said, having the ear of folk could have prepared some ground way before the grown ups get involved. Just my musings though.
And "crucial", well, cakes being over egged a bit.
It's small potatoes in the grand scheme of things
roydo
in memoriam - 1965-2024
Indeed. The senior members of the IRA, in Belfast anyrate, were well known to the RUC, Counter Opps, and most senior members of any Army or Marine patrol. There were dialogues at that level. And infiltration, obvs. And heavily rumoured collusion, but I have no knowledge of that. The other bits, I do.
Milk
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Can I just mention that the Official Monster Raving Loony Party (membership £10) has stated that when they come to power, every citizen will be entitled to a woolly hat ............ so we can all pull the wool over our eyes.
BTW, mock not because the OMRLP has been at the cutting edge of UK policy for many years. Vis:
Although we are ‘Loonies’ we often appear to be the sensible party. Despite this, it will be the 5th general election I’ve lost.
‘Loony’ policies that we first proposed that are now law include reducing the voting age from 21 to 18, allowing independent local radio stations, passports for pets, and all day opening for pubs. We were the first to advocate lowering the voting age to 16.
‘Green policies’. Roofs of all new housing to be made of solar panels.
Giant ‘hamster wheels’ to be placed in all public parks for joggers to run in. These will generate free electricity for pensioners.
‘Brexit policies’. Place a row of toll booths across the English channel to charge for European access. France to give us back Brittany. Europeans who drive on the wrong, right hand side of the road to drive on the right, left hand side.
We think Labour have missed a trick with their return to the 70’s. I remember the 70’s had nationalisation ruining industry, pointless strikes, and the 3 day week. The 60’s is a much better option – good music, long hair, peace and love!
Most importantly, we are the only party that promises to SAVE THE DODO.
Baron-Von-Thunderclap
BTW, mock not because the OMRLP has been at the cutting edge of UK policy for many years. Vis:
Although we are ‘Loonies’ we often appear to be the sensible party. Despite this, it will be the 5th general election I’ve lost.
‘Loony’ policies that we first proposed that are now law include reducing the voting age from 21 to 18, allowing independent local radio stations, passports for pets, and all day opening for pubs. We were the first to advocate lowering the voting age to 16.
‘Green policies’. Roofs of all new housing to be made of solar panels.
Giant ‘hamster wheels’ to be placed in all public parks for joggers to run in. These will generate free electricity for pensioners.
‘Brexit policies’. Place a row of toll booths across the English channel to charge for European access. France to give us back Brittany. Europeans who drive on the wrong, right hand side of the road to drive on the right, left hand side.
We think Labour have missed a trick with their return to the 70’s. I remember the 70’s had nationalisation ruining industry, pointless strikes, and the 3 day week. The 60’s is a much better option – good music, long hair, peace and love!
Most importantly, we are the only party that promises to SAVE THE DODO.
Baron-Von-Thunderclap
10 & 12 point margins. Fieldwork almost all before Corbyn interview last night. Labour seem to be maxing out around 33-35. Tories stable in the low to mid 40s.
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peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
The man had nothing to do with the peace process and I agree with you it's an absolute disgrace for them to try and spin it any other way. There was an article the other day from an ex IRA man who categorically stated that his 'support' for the IRA actually gave comfort to those wishing to continue fighting. This may or may not be true, but I would bet that absolutely no one in Government, either under John Major or Tony Blair would even suggest that he remotely assisted the peace process.....
zzr45
#MURDERINGSCUM
Where's the money for rugby league?
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
zzr45
#MURDERINGSCUM
Even worse he's going to make the Blue union feel important.
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