Current Affairs 2017 General Election

[Clint Planet]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_of_Yazidis_by_ISIL
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chibok_schoolgirls_kidnapping
http://www.islamicsupremecouncil.or...wahhabi-roots-and-current-representation.html

There's some working out.

There's none at all, actually. You really don't have an answer, do you? Ironically, your entire presence on this thread has done more damage to your dubious UKIP cause than good in the last three or four pages.

Keep it up!

 

[zzr45]

There's none at all, actually. You really don't have an answer, do you? Ironically, your entire presence on this thread has done more damage to your dubious UKIP cause than good in the last three or four pages.

Keep it up!

Except it is - the answer is simple. This is nothing more than an Extremist cult trying to impose it's own vision of how the world should be run. The 'Western Oppression' is a very convenient narrative to push absolute evil. I'm not sure what dubious UKIP cause I'm pushing by saying that a group that has actively carried out genocide in the Middle East might be driven by more than a hatred of the West. Another fine example of the snarling left you.

 

[peteblue]

tories going full on attack here, reckon the public will buy what they are saying?

Yes.....

 

[Clint Planet]

Because the example your giving is utterly divorced from the reality of this situation. If this is about the Western Oppression then why aren't suicide bombers attacking military installations?

Because, as you well know, military installations are well beyond the scope of small-scale suicide bombers, so they attack what they can - civilians (just as practically every bombing raid by any country since 1937 has, by the way).

But getting back to the "reality of this situation" - it is entirely plausible that a section of this world that is is bombed, invaded and exploited by another section of the world will then, en masse, become negative in its view of their aggressor and that a small section will become radicalised and declare some sort of holy war.

Islam is not the problem. Like any religion, Christianity included, it has blood on its hands through the ages but Islam was not a major issue in 1940, 1950, 1970 - so --- why is it now? What has changed? Islam itself? Something else?

Have you ever watched the documentary Bitter Lake?

 

[hullefc]

Well said Corbyn. You have not let the anti Corbyn media and the Blairites put you off stating the obvious.

 

[peteblue]

He isnt a pacifist

He's a Quisling.....

 

[hullefc]

A very interesting article from July 2014.

Iraq crisis: How Saudi Arabia helped Isis take over the north of the country

 

[Clint Planet]

But the attacking of crowds of people out enjoying life with no links to the military complex? Really? That's justifiable?

You keep implying (stating, actually) that I am "justifying" all this. That is quite simply not the case. But I do seek to understand why this sort of atrocity might happen. One of the problems with people such as yourself is that you see (often wilfully, it seems to me) any attempt to explain or understand or make sense of as an attempt to justify.

And, frankly, it reflects pretty poorly on you and adds nothing to solving the whole big bloody mess.

 

[Clint Planet]

He's a Quisling.....

Desperate stuff, Pete. Doing badly in the polls?

 

[Blue 1]

Amber Rudd telling people Corbyn said the polar opposite of what he actually said, and Boris trying to stick the boot in for making the exact same argument he made after 7/7.

They're shameless.

 

[bazzer25]

Compared with melting-may, the strong and stable souffle???

Who said anything about May? Tories, Labour, the support for these two swings one way then the other in British politics, I don't think it will swing enough before the election. It may have been a master stroke by the Tories calling it now. Either way I don't think Corbyn has enough in the tank for it to happen, hence the reasoning behind my post. You must not jump to conclusions mate.

 

[tsubaki]

tories going full on attack here, reckon the public will buy what they are saying?

Not anyone who watched the speech, no. What he said was reasonable and logical, which is why even Guido is saying that the CCHQ response is "a little confected"..

 

[Clint Planet]

Amber Rudd telling people Corbyn said the polar opposite of what he actually said, and Boris trying to stick the boot in for making the exact same argument he made after 7/7.

They're shameless.

The party of the ruling class, worried about the little guy rumbling them - what do you expect?

 

[tsubaki]

He's a Quisling.....

For him to be a Quisling, he would have to be (a) in power and (b) working closely with the people behind the ideology causing all the strife.

 

[Clint Planet]

For him to be a Quisling, he would have to be (a) in power and (b) working closely with the people behind the ideology causing all the strife.

BOOM!!!!!