neil999
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still prob win but good to see she isnt getting an easy ride
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still prob win but good to see she isnt getting an easy ride
A couple of weeks ago I would've agreed mate, but I'm optimistic that people are sensible enough to see just how plain weak and malicious she is.
But, if supporting Everton has taught me anything, it's not to be hopeful about anything because Liverpool always win.
Clint Planet
Utter Cad.
Right now they'll be weighing up the damage done by keeping it against the damage done by ignominiously jettisoning it.
tsubaki
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It is what it is, even with this U-turn. It isn't even a realistic way of paying for care.
flibbyflob
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Not very STRONG and STABLE is it?
Been a good week last week for Labour, this one starting off even better. We may get a close contest yet.
Been a good week last week for Labour, this one starting off even better. We may get a close contest yet.
The two u-turns undertaken have been more due to the reaction of the press than by Labour though, no?
zzr45
#MURDERINGSCUM
I think Labour have ridden the wave to an extent. They've been far more vocal on this slip than they have been about others.
tsubaki
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I'd say its more about the reaction of the voters than the press - after all, the Mail thought this was a fantastic idea when it was launched.
Though if you listened to May's speech, then this is something that Corbyn did.
tsubaki
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Miliband did start this process - Syria and newspaper malpractice especially - but there's been a lot more of it since 2015.
orchard
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I doubt it's intended to be, it's probably more focussed on the financial benefit of the instruments introduced and the liquidising of assets as a stimulus.
As it is, I'm not really sure how the social care proposals stack up. As I understand it, people pay for their care at the moment if they have > £24k in assets, and they pay up front and in cash.
The new proposals seem to scrap that, and instead propose people only pay when they die, and won't have to pay at all once their assets get below £100k. So not only does that defer any cash going into the system until the patient dies, which could take many years, during which time its presumably the tax payer paying salaries etc.?, but it also makes it very attractive for people to transfer their home to their children, thus ensuring their assets are below the £100k cutoff and they pay nothing.
Undoubtedly we need conversations about how to pay for elderly care, but I'm not sure really who thinks these things up.
The new proposals seem to scrap that, and instead propose people only pay when they die, and won't have to pay at all once their assets get below £100k. So not only does that defer any cash going into the system until the patient dies, which could take many years, during which time its presumably the tax payer paying salaries etc.?, but it also makes it very attractive for people to transfer their home to their children, thus ensuring their assets are below the £100k cutoff and they pay nothing.
Undoubtedly we need conversations about how to pay for elderly care, but I'm not sure really who thinks these things up.
tsubaki
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Indeed. The perverse thing about it is that its the Tory vote - those in those parts of the world like down here, the Home Counties and the South-West - who are going to pay the most under this system. A £100,000 cap on all assets, including housing, will leave an awful lot for the state to take.
Clint Planet
Utter Cad.
True, but they know Corbyn is impressing much more than May at the hustings.
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