Current Affairs 2017 General Election

2017 general election

  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 24 6.5%
  • Labour

    Votes: 264 71.0%
  • Tories

    Votes: 41 11.0%
  • Cheese on the ballot paper

    Votes: 35 9.4%
  • SNP

    Votes: 4 1.1%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 4 1.1%

  • Total voters
    372
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Clegg sent them back 20 years by appearing on the front bench of a weak Tory government. His ego got the better of him. Should have taken a back seat.

Clegg gambled (that they would have got PR in) and lost; certainly once the referendum didn't go his way he should have either walked away or blocked everything Cameron tried to do that wasn't in his direct interest.
 
No, he isn't. McDonnell believes that pensioners should get winter fuel allowance without means testing. He is a pensioner. He gets winter fuel allowance. He is proposing that all pensioners should keep winter fuel allowance without means testing. It is in no way hypocritical for him to do this whilst he gets it.

The mental thing about this criticism of yours is that it was Tory policy to allow all pensioners - rich, "Labour rich", and poor - to get winter fuel allowance not so long ago.

Why does he believe that ? What possible reason is there for giving someone on £99,000 an additional £200 ? I can't even believe that a 'soak the rich' Labour person would take such a position......it just shows that someone who is incapable of accepting that any kind of benefit should be withdrawn or amended, even one as obvious in his own particular case, is incapable of ever being Chancellor........but because we all know he never will be then he can say whatever he wants....
 
No, he isn't. McDonnell believes that pensioners should get winter fuel allowance without means testing. He is a pensioner. He gets winter fuel allowance. He is proposing that all pensioners should keep winter fuel allowance without means testing. It is in no way hypocritical for him to do this whilst he gets it.

The mental thing about this criticism of yours is that it was Tory policy to allow all pensioners - rich, "Labour rich", and poor - to get winter fuel allowance not so long ago.

Why does he believe that ? What possible reason is there for giving someone on £99,000 an additional £200 ? I can't even believe that a 'soak the rich' Labour person would take such a position......it just shows that someone who is incapable of accepting that any kind of benefit should be withdrawn or amended, even one as obvious in his own particular case, is incapable of ever being Chancellor........but because we all know he never will be then he can say whatever he wants....
 
Why does he believe that ? What possible reason is there for giving someone on £99,000 an additional £200 ? I can't even believe that a 'soak the rich' Labour person would take such a position......it just shows that someone who is incapable of accepting that any kind of benefit should be withdrawn or amended, even one as obvious in his own particular case, is incapable of ever being Chancellor........but because we all know he never will be then he can say whatever he wants....

Well done for realizing that he isn't being hypocritical by accepting something that he is proposing everyone else eligible should continue to get, but you are still making no sense.

For a start - if you are taking the position that its outrageous that he should claim £200 when he is "Labour rich", I am perplexed why you don't have seem to have a problem with him claiming* his £8,000 a year state pension when he is in a full time job.

* though the Mail didn't actually say he claimed it, just that he is eligible to (and they didn't say it was in his tax return so he may not claim it)
 
Well done for realizing that he isn't being hypocritical by accepting something that he is proposing everyone else eligible should continue to get, but you are still making no sense.

For a start - if you are taking the position that its outrageous that he should claim £200 when he is "Labour rich", I am perplexed why you don't have seem to have a problem with him claiming* his £8,000 a year state pension when he is in a full time job.

* though the Mail didn't actually say he claimed it, just that he is eligible to (and they didn't say it was in his tax return so he may not claim it)

Whatever pension he has he has earned it. His £200 is a freebie that he neither earned nor requires. If he is against any form of means testing and that benefits should be universal and for everyone irrespective of income, fine, say so, be honest....
 
You're a lib dem supporter aren't you? I thought they'd get a significant bounce with them taking an anti brexit stance but it doesn't seem to have happened for them. What do you think has gone wrong?

I'm a liberal in the traditional sense of the word, so even the Lib Dems aren't a natural home. Tim Farron isn't a particularly inspiring leader, and I do wonder if there isn't a degree of resignation to Brexit among the electorate. Given that this election was sparked by Brexit and the next parliament will be dominated by Brexit, the debates to date have been noticeable by the absence of Brexit. The Tories have been very non-committal in their own position, whilst Labour have scarcely done any better. Can we really say we know more about the Brexit positions of the main parties now than we did a month ago?
 
It certainly is when you refuse to have debates / engage in the media side of things in order to meet the public.

For far too long the Tories have not been held to account by the media. They are generally getting a free pass at the moment for not having costed their manifesto but ironically have costed Labour's to the penny. You couldn't make up such a weak biased media as that exists in the UK. Made the more bizarre because they shout and stamp their feet and tell the world that their jobs is to hold the executive to account.

However, Corbyn is going to get all sorts of lying crap thrown at him hoping some sticks.
 
For far too long the Tories have not been held to account by the media. They are generally getting a free pass at the moment for not having costed their manifesto but ironically have costed Labour's to the penny. You couldn't make up such a weak biased media as that exists in the UK. Made the more bizarre because they shout and stamp their feet and tell the world that their jobs is to hold the executive to account.

However, Corbyn is going to get all sorts of lying crap thrown at him hoping some sticks.

Very true.

The most difficult question the media has asked Theresa May was what her favourite colour is. Granted, that's because she's been dodging questions left right and centre, just as she has the general public, but the media aren't doing themselves any favours by not pointing that out.
 
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