Current Affairs 2017 General Election

[tsubaki]

I have no idea who the guy is, and wouldn't know him if I fell over him. It sounds as though he earns less than most footballers. The other fella however wishes to be our next Chancellor.......

Paul Dacre is the bloke who oversees the paper attacking McDonnell for claiming £200 winter fuel allowance.

 

[ToffeeTim]

What I'd like to know when seeing these polls is if the pollster changed their methodology after underestimating the tory voters so badly in 2015.

Cause if they haven't then I'd say tories are probably further ahead than the 9-12 points. But if they have changed their methodology to negate the shy tory effect then I'd suggest it could actually be very close with the tories being hugely over inflated.

The tories are running a bizarre, lethargic campaign so far which is hard to understand. Still think they will win but first time I've felt there's actually a contest taking place now so at least it might be interesting.

 

[peteblue]

Paul Dacre is the bloke who oversees the paper attacking McDonnell for claiming £200 winter fuel allowance.

Which he does, while earning £99,000 per year, so what is your point. Should McDonnell be claiming it do you think ? Do you not think it's a bit rich that someone on that sort of income should keep claiming it, while attacking a political party seeking to remove it from the rich ? Can you not see that this is all arse about face here.......

 

[tsubaki]

I don't think she's being brave enough......she should be smashing this shambles of a Labour Party all over the shop, but she and Ruth Davidson are playing it well up in Scotland. There are several distinct battles going on here........

Scotland is easily explainable because, with the SNP in power, its inevitable that it is going to be Nationalist vs Unionist, and the failure of Dugdale to in any way change Labour from the corrupt little mob it was up there has crippled its chances.

As for down here, I think her main problem is that the PLP have taken a collective decision to shut up during the campaign in an attempt to make Corbyn "own" the defeat. As with most of their decision making these past fifteen years, it is something both understandable and likely to blow up in their face if what they are planning for fails to happen. The consequence of this silence is that, if the media want to get a Labour voice on the election, they have to go to Corbyn or his allies, which means that its his message that is getting out without the internal opposition that it has had since he became leader.

edit: don't forget, it was only the summer 2016 coup that really killed Labour's poll numbers

 

[Brennan]

Which he does, while earning £99,000 per year, so what is your point. Should McDonnell be claiming it do you think ? Do you not think it's a bit rich that someone on that sort of income should keep claiming it, while attacking a political party seeking to remove it from the rich ? Can you not see that this is all arse about face here.......

They're not just seeking to remove it from the rich though are they. The only realistic way they can means test would be allowing only the very poorest who receive pension credits to get it. Any other means test would be financially prohibitive.

 

[tsubaki]

Which he does, while earning £99,000 per year, so what is your point. Should McDonnell be claiming it do you think ? Do you not think it's a bit rich that someone on that sort of income should keep claiming it, while attacking a political party seeking to remove it from the rich ? Can you not see that this is all arse about face here.......

Not really; if he was going to be a hypocrite then surely it would be him keeping it whilst getting rid of it for others. He wants to keep the fuel allowance for everyone, so he is entitled to attack a party that wants to get rid of it for most people.

 

[Kendall's Dream]

 

[Kendall's Dream]

What I'd like to know when seeing these polls is if the pollster changed their methodology after underestimating the tory voters so badly in 2015.

Cause if they haven't then I'd say tories are probably further ahead than the 9-12 points. But if they have changed their methodology to negate the shy tory effect then I'd suggest it could actually be very close with the tories being hugely over inflated.

The tories are running a bizarre, lethargic campaign so far which is hard to understand. Still think they will win but first time I've felt there's actually a contest taking place now so at least it might be interesting.

Come and join the movement. Vote labour

 

[peteblue]

They're not just seeking to remove it from the rich though are they. The only realistic way they can means test would be allowing only the very poorest who receive pension credits to get it. Any other means test would be financially prohibitive.

I was using the Labour description of rich.......

 

[peteblue]

Not really; if he was going to be a hypocrite then surely it would be him keeping it whilst getting rid of it for others. He wants to keep the fuel allowance for everyone, so he is entitled to attack a party that wants to get rid of it for most people.

But he doesn't need the fuel allowance, and that's the point. Some people need more than they receive, he doesn't need any of it, he is taking money away from the poor. An absolute hypocrite of the highest order......

 

[ToffeeTim]

Come and join the movement. Vote labour

NI constituency. We have our own loonies to choose from so I abstain.

 

[Brennan]

I was using the Labour description of rich.......

Okay Pete.

 

[tsubaki]

But he doesn't need the fuel allowance, and that's the point. Some people need more than they receive, he doesn't need any of it, he is taking money away from the poor. An absolute hypocrite of the highest order......

No, he isn't. McDonnell believes that pensioners should get winter fuel allowance without means testing. He is a pensioner. He gets winter fuel allowance. He is proposing that all pensioners should keep winter fuel allowance without means testing. It is in no way hypocritical for him to do this whilst he gets it.

The mental thing about this criticism of yours is that it was Tory policy to allow all pensioners - rich, "Labour rich", and poor - to get winter fuel allowance not so long ago.

 

[tsubaki]

NI constituency. We have our own loonies to choose from so I abstain.

does the SDLP still exist?

 

[Seanjd]

What education cuts would they be ?. Free school meals will still be available for those that cannot afford them and need them, but those rich barstewards like Corbyn and McDonnel will have to pay, and rightly so......

The recent cuts in education..

My school is set to lose around £300,000 from next academic year onwards.