Current Affairs 2017 General Election

2017 general election

  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 24 6.5%
  • Labour

    Votes: 264 71.0%
  • Tories

    Votes: 41 11.0%
  • Cheese on the ballot paper

    Votes: 35 9.4%
  • SNP

    Votes: 4 1.1%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 4 1.1%

  • Total voters
    372
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So you'd protest vote because you're an arl get and sell out the needy and vulnerable in society.

I was being slightly mischievous, but, to be serious ... in the real world, away from the cosy world of the circle jerk that internet forums can often become, lots of good Labour voters are considering doing that, because they see a party in disarray, which plainly isn't going to win, but needs a kick up the arse to put it back into gear so it's got a chance of winning in five years time.

The arl arses of my generation remember Corbyn's past, and despair of the situation that has seen him become leader. That's not his fault, but it needs sorting, and I suspect this election will be a wake up call for the party. Hopefully some real talent will come through which the general public can relate to, because the current shadow cabinet certainly doesn't.
 
The arl arses of my generation remember Corbyn's past, and despair of the situation that has seen him become leader. That's not his fault, but it needs sorting, and I suspect this election will be a wake up call for the party. Hopefully some real talent will come through which the general public can relate to, because the current shadow cabinet certainly doesn't.


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All I see are a load of bitter arl farts reminiscing about an empire that's long extinct and willing to sell the youngest generations out because they can't stand multiculturalism.

What a fine example you are for the young generation who have so much to offer than any of you ever did.
 
I was being slightly mischievous, but, to be serious ... in the real world, away from the cosy world of the circle jerk that internet forums can often become, lots of good Labour voters are considering doing that, because they see a party in disarray, which plainly isn't going to win, but needs a kick up the arse to put it back into gear so it's got a chance of winning in five years time.

The arl arses of my generation remember Corbyn's past, and despair of the situation that has seen him become leader. That's not his fault, but it needs sorting, and I suspect this election will be a wake up call for the party. Hopefully some real talent will come through which the general public can relate to, because the current shadow cabinet certainly doesn't.

I agree with your post in some respects, but I also think it's important, especially for working class people and traditional Labour voters, to remind themselves why the Tories are not on our side.

You don't need to look any further than brutal reforms on welfare.

In 2010, around 25,000 three-day emergency food supplies were given out at food banks across the country.

In 2016, just under 1.2m three-day emergency food supplies were given out by food banks.

The main reason? Late benefit payment or change in benefits. Followed closely by low income.

That is a mind-blowing increase over the course of Tory and Tory lead governments. The area with most food bank dependency? The north west.

I'm sure that welfare reform, also along with blind eye taken towards housing reform, has also had a huge contribution to the amount of homeless people currently living in the streets. More than doubled since 2010.
 
I was being slightly mischievous, but, to be serious ... in the real world, away from the cosy world of the circle jerk that internet forums can often become, lots of good Labour voters are considering doing that, because they see a party in disarray, which plainly isn't going to win, but needs a kick up the arse to put it back into gear so it's got a chance of winning in five years time.

The arl arses of my generation remember Corbyn's past, and despair of the situation that has seen him become leader. That's not his fault, but it needs sorting, and I suspect this election will be a wake up call for the party. Hopefully some real talent will come through which the general public can relate to, because the current shadow cabinet certainly doesn't.
They can't be good Labour voters if they're considering voting Tory. Would you rather have a Labour Party in 'disarray' in government for the next five years or the Tories?

And for anyone who thinks Corbyn is a weak leader, not strong opposition etc etc:

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So in your view, expressing an opinion which goes against yours is "sniping"?

No, not at all. But I'd like to hear from you what you believe, rather than just slagging off labour. So if you are a Tory say tell us why and what policies you particularly believe in and why. Not trying to get at you. Just genuinely interested. And I accept lots of lefties are also sniping on here coming out with Tories are evil and other simplistic nonesense
 
No, not at all. But I'd like to hear from you what you believe, rather than just slagging off labour. So if you are a Tory say tell us why and what policies you particularly believe in and why. Not trying to get at you. Just genuinely interested. And I accept lots of lefties are also sniping on here coming out with Tories are evil and other simplistic nonesense
I'm not "slagging off" anybody, just commenting on the strange mindset of an obvious Labour supporter who wants to alienate part of their customer base. On that sign change "vote Labour" to "support Man U" and "Tory" to "Man City" and see how bigoted and irrational it is. Tribal politics makes no sense and doesn't make for good governance. This is how we have ended up with no effective opposition in this country.
 
I'm not "slagging off" anybody, just commenting on the strange mindset of an obvious Labour supporter who wants to alienate part of their customer base. On that sign change "vote Labour" to "support Man U" and "Tory" to "Man City" and see how bigoted and irrational it is. Tribal politics makes no sense and doesn't make for good governance. This is how we have ended up with no effective opposition in this country.

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They can't be good Labour voters if they're considering voting Tory. Would you rather have a Labour Party in 'disarray' in government for the next five years or the Tories?

And for anyone who thinks Corbyn is a weak leader, not strong opposition etc etc:

The Labour party aren't going to win though

Two years ago, on this very forum, people had their heads in the sand and ignored anyone who said Ed Milliband was a weak leader and wasn't going to get elected. The same thing is happening again here, in that there is a majority of posters here, who totally refuse to acknowledge that there is a problem with the party and it's not just something dreamed up by the right-wing press.

For sure, the press are taking advantage of the situation and sticking the boot in, but until people in all parts of the party realise there's a problem, and get together to try and find a way of appealing to the people who vote in areas which actually make a difference to the make up of parliament, as opposed to preaching to the converted, then, until the Tories make a massive screw up ( which obviously they will one day ), we're in trouble.

I agree with your post in some respects, but I also think it's important, especially for working class people and traditional Labour voters, to remind themselves why the Tories are not on our side.

You don't need to look any further than brutal reforms on welfare.

In 2010, around 25,000 three-day emergency food supplies were given out at food banks across the country.

In 2016, just under 1.2m three-day emergency food supplies were given out by food banks.

The main reason? Late benefit payment or change in benefits. Followed closely by low income.

That is a mind-blowing increase over the course of Tory and Tory lead governments. The area with most food bank dependency? The north west.

I'm sure that welfare reform, also along with blind eye taken towards housing reform, has also had a huge contribution to the amount of homeless people currently living in the streets. More than doubled since 2010.

I don't disagree with anything you typed mate, but the vast majority of people who vote in marginals aren't affected. People might make the right noises about inequalities and poverty brought about the government, but when push comes to shove, most people will vote for what's best for them, and their families, so you have to find a way to appeal to them. Once you've got them voting for you and you're in power, then you can fix what's wrong, but you can't fix it if you're on the outside.
 
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