12Hr Snap Poll - Allardyce and Everton

[uknightbreed]

It' the managers fault

It's a managers fault to get the best out of the players. Koeman couldn't so he got sacked unsowrth wernt ready so he never got the job ..this fat waster can't do it so he should go

but the next manager will have the same problems and will be sacked , and the next and the next ....

this is down to 1. the current players and 2. the player acquisitions ,who and how they choose them.
if a new manager comes in tomorrow, these 2 issues wont change.

 

[stamullenblue]

We were prepared to pay watford 10 million for Silva. Won’t cost that to get rid fat Sam of all his entourage ... after yesterday’s embarrassment and just watching Lookmans winner this clown has to go ... Silva was first choice so let’s get him now as the club is going from bad to worse !

 

[gonetomorrow]

Why is the 12 hour poll open for 24 hours?

Nanny state .

 

[peteblue]

I know there’s other threads on our abomination of a season, our individual players, the Manager and the Board and I don’t want to cause duplication. However, having watched us since the early 70’s and been an STH for around 40 seasons I can honestly say I haven’t been so disillusioned with Everton as I am this weekend, and that takes some doing having watched what we have over the years.

Why, as a major Club ( I still firmly believe we are one) can we a) not stabilise under a new owner, b) make positive steps forward with the level of investment recently injected (however it’s generated and whatever other clubs have spent its still hugely more than anything previously at Everton) and c) demonstrate some calculable level of overall improvement? That’s what frustrates people....we know we aren’t going to win the League but a Club such as Everton should be able to deliver entertaining football and seriously challenge for the other available silverware. We are so predictable, so fragile and unfathomably mediocre in every facet bar supporter loyalty and community involvement (it embarrasses me beyond belief that our shambolic football-related activities shadow the fantastic world-leading initiatives that EITC to all but Evertonians).

These many contributors to our demise....players, Board, DOF etc and we have so many problems to resolve, however the biggest current issue for me is the choice of Allardyce as the Manager. That single event has pushed me to almost hate the thing that’s a massive part of my life both emotionally and physically, and I’m certain there’s others just like me. His interview post-match last night literally made me want to be sick - that diatribe alone should have Moshiri calling a meeting this morning and terminating the contract he should never have been given in the first place. The way he represented OUR Club was totally and utterly unacceptable irrespective of his own view of players and performance. He was the living embodiment of that fictional idiot Mike Bassett and that is scary.

So, simple approach. Should Allardyce be fired immediately or is he a neccesary Evil we have to endure as our Club is so inept to have got itself into this position? Is the recovery of our integrity more important right now than the dissecting of all the reasons for our current malaise?

No need for another poll, we all share you concern. How a season of such promise has descended into yesterday’s performance god only knows. The utter shambles is hard to take. Allardyce should never have been allowed anywhere near our club, he should be sent packing immediately and either get Unsworth to see the season out or ask Peter Reid to help the club until a manager can be found. At the moment there is no light at the end of the tunnel, just darkness.....

 

[Joey66]

As he not been sacked yet?

 

[hktoffee]

Yesterday was set up to defend for 90 mins and hope for the best. I would rather have played to have a go and lose than what happened yesterday. Once that team was announced we all knew what was happening.

We were lucky Arsenal give up after the first 3 and took it easy, if they would have gone for it it would have been at least 7.

Our starting 11 cost £20m more than there’s did, we have spent more than ever and yet it’s the first time we’ve ever let 4 goals in, in a first half.

The thing is without a competent manager who instructs a team having a go and lose is just as bad. Like Martinez.

 

[SantaClausisanEvertonian]

The first option by a country mile and send Kenwright back to the West End for keeps while we're about it.

 

[evertony]

Knee jerk springs to mind. Let's see what happens in the next match when Coleman is back and Morgs is benched for starts. That was a team picked to save players for the next match.

In the summer we probably need to go down option A. Also 'In the hope we remain in the premiership'? We need 9 to 12 points more from nearly a third of a season still left to play!

Knee jerk?
What have you been watching, and did you listen to Allardyces post match interview?

 

[evertony]

Why is the 12 hour poll open for 24 hours?

Everton that.

 

[evertony]

We've already got a running poll on this:

https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/sam-and-walsh-out.102083/

plus your wording of the options are heavily biased.

Apologies, didn’t see the other thread.
What other option is there....keep him a few seasons?

 

[The binman chronicles]

Knee jerk?
What have you been watching, and did you listen to Allardyces post match interview?

Where was this post after we won against Leicester? I don't like he threw the game and I hate almost everything he says but whether he is right or wrong will depend how we do in the next game with the 1st team out there.

I really have to question the sanity of anyone who advocates getting yet another manager in this season. We need to get to May have someone lined up to take over, let them have the full pre-season to work out who and how they want to play to give them the best chance of succeeding. Or do you want to give the next bloke a hospital pass?

 

[4737carlin]

He and Walsh have to go in May.

I'm genuinely more worried about Walsh staying, he is kiling us over 2 managers now

 

[Caolam]

Arsenal are not the side they were because their defence isn't what it was. The only way to beat Arsenal is to get at them and not sit back and let their good players have time to play. I would said that if you asked Wenger how he would like a team to set up against them he would say, put as many men behind the ball as you can so that we don't have to concern ourselves about defending, play an experimental system with a new player in an important position, pair him with a player who isn't good enough to play his proper position but who is shoe horned in at left wing back. Oh, don't tackle us.
I think we fulfiled al Wenger's expectations. If Arsenal think that putting 5 past Everton is them back on track after Swansea they are mistaken. They should forget yesterday's result and work on what went wrong at Swansea.

 

[Zezti]

He won't be gone until the summer.

 

[dholliday]

Apologies, didn’t see the other thread.
What other option is there....keep him a few seasons?

His contract runs out May 2019, that has to be an option in any poll as well as keeping him until the end of this season (the bookie's favourite). But he's not a necessary evil: personally I backed Unsworth to keep us up at a similar point-gathering level as Sam is doing, only with more entertaining games.