Yes because I’d say 7th was a good season anyway for now. All I’m saying is I don’t really see an unsuccessful cup run as a big deal. I don’t think of the season we got to to two semis under Martinez as a good season, if we’d gone on to win one I would think differently.
Yes, a cup WIN. I don’t think he aims to lose in the final, and neither do I.
The journey mate. Its all about the journey. And let's be honest, we're not getting turned over 6 nil in a final. Have faith.
Nah. Getting to a cup final and losing is like going on holiday and then your hotel saying they double booked and you have to go home. The journeys only good because of the anticipation of what’s at the end of it. If the answer to that is nothing then you might aswell stay at home.
So. Because we don't know if we'd win a final, why bother? Sounds like wham to me...
Read it again. It was specifically about getting to a final and losing. So we do know whether we’d win, and the answer is no, we wouldn’t. Of course I want us to WIN a trophy, that goes without saying. The whole point is that I’m not remotely bothered about getting to a final if we lose it. It wouldn’t affect how I saw the season, because it’s no different to losing in the quarters. I’d rather win a derby than be losing finalists in a cup, no question at all.
Not really sure trying to win trophies counts as a model to be honest, it’s kind of the whole point of the game.
Unless you get a trophy for losing them now, that is completely irrelevant to the discussion, just like most things you post.
I have no idea what you’re finding so hard to understand about this but you’ve somehow completely misunderstood the whole conversation. I can’t be bothered going over it again, but me ‘stating the obvious’ is the whole point. I was answering the question ‘would you be happy losing in a cup final’ with ‘no’. If your answer would be yes, you’re weird. If your answer would be no , you agree with me, and are arguing with yourself.
I don't think you're grasping his point. The initial comment was effectively "would you think it was a good season if we lost in a cup final". He's saying no he wouldn't. because it's not an achievement to lose a cup final. I have him down as totally right.
