Garbage. A player with guts who has made countless brilliant tackles when all has seemed lost. Like Baines, Pienaar, Arteta and Cahill. All good enough to win trophies, just a part of teams not quite up to standard. Past his prime now but if you want to slag him off I suggest you have never actually attended a match prior to last season.
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sageyefc
Player Valuation: £90m
He's an absolute coward.
Ever wonder why he was always making them recovering last ditch tackles that where his trademark, because he was getting caught out to begin with. Now he's lost his burst of pace and can't do that anymore he's of no use . Was a very good player for us, but been finished for at least 2 season now
GwladysBlue
Player Valuation: £70m
He’s A loser, that’s why he didn’t win any trophies with us. In his time here: Portsmouth, Birmingham City, Swansea and Wigan Athletic have all won trophies.
Jagielka thinks 8th is a fantastic season. I used to admire him, now I see him for the Nevillesque loser we’ve sadly been cursed with too often at this club.
We will never progress until we gut the squad of everyone who doesn’t strive to be the best.
dead_soft
Player Valuation: £35m
Yeah, let's get rid of every player who doesn't think they're as good as Messi. But not if they think they're TOO good and try and progress because then they are traitorous scum. But they can't be realistic that makes them a coward.
5 out of 36 of the main 3 trophies have been won by 'smaller' clubs. It'd be nice to have won, but doesn't show the players who haven't to be bottlers or losers. What a ridiculous notion.
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havrey0123
Player Valuation: £25m
Keeping players for too long has to be something that has to be eliminated.
Happened with Osman and hibbert. And is now happening with jags baines and Dunc.
If your no longer good enough you should get shipped out. I'ts not rocket science
Happened with Osman and hibbert. And is now happening with jags baines and Dunc.
If your no longer good enough you should get shipped out. I'ts not rocket science
mkrudden
Player Valuation: £40m
Spot on mate.
And even last season he showed himself to be our best defender. A low bar, granted but there we have it.
Too many on here are FIFA-esque with their views- that players should be perfect in every game and never age.
TrixyStevens
Player Valuation: £35m
Never captain material. A good servant but time is up. If we’re going into the season with him not just first choice but in the panel then it shows the ambition.
“8th is good enough”
“8th is good enough”
MercuryBlue88
Player Valuation: £6m
Some of the criticism in this thread is rediculous. Whinge about the last two seasons fair enough, not been good enough. But to write off his entire career is a joke, some short term memories in here.
Shouldn't be starting games for a team with any real aspirations but some of the bile on here is well out of order.
The fact that he gets games is not down to him and instead shows up quite a few of the other squad members if they can't get in ahead of a 35 year old well past his best.
The fact that he gets games is not down to him and instead shows up quite a few of the other squad members if they can't get in ahead of a 35 year old well past his best.
You have totally ruined your own aurgument . You say he's a loser because he's never won anything and that's the reason why he's never won anything? Then compare him to neville? Is this phil neville? Multi trophy winning neville?
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Spot on. Sentimentality...and over what? The feller's done nothing here. He's won nothing and been an appalling example as a leader on the pitch.
Rule of thumb has been over the past few years: if we're handing starts to the likes of him and Baines we are a failed club. Even more so this coming season.
FFS, just get these players out of the club and let us move on and progress.
Used to be brilliant but can't expect him to be anymore at his age. Time to move on/step down so we can have fresh blood and a new captain.
TheBlueGibbon
Player Valuation: £40m
Hopefully a reunion with Neil Warnock at Cardiff will be on the cards.
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