windymiller
Player Valuation: £70m
Yeah, but he doesn't assist either. So what does he do exactly?
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Surely it was you who labelled him an attack minded player when you said 'He also shouldn't have to provide a ton of cover for his back'? If you don't think he should have to offer cover in a defensive sense and you don't think he should be classed as attack minded, you obviously expect even less of him than I thought.
I think Gana could score more goals, and the fact you think that's a preposterous idea tells me you're having a laugh when talking about other people not understanding football. He's been played as a box to box midfielder in most games this season, not as a defensive shield. In that position I would like to see someone getting 5 goals really - it's not the most important part of his job by any means but it's still a part. I've no idea what you mean when you say Sigurdsson shouldn't have to 'hold' the ball unless your only experience of football is watching The Simpsons so I can't really comment on that.
Henrichs is a full-back. And we were NEVER in for the Lazio lad he's insanely expensive.
Raino85
Player Valuation: £40m
i'm not saying we were, what i am saying is those were the type of players we should of been looking at before they made abit of a reputation for themselves. Savic when he was at Genk, Ndidi when he was at Genk, Werner before salzbury maybe even after 1st season, Bailley before Leverkusen got him.
Onyekuru fits the bill in them sort of terms of signings, wether he will be a good addition is another question
Henrichs plays full back for Leverkusen but has been a centre back all the way coming up (think Holgate)
CRIMHEAD
Player Valuation: £40m
Whoa. First of all, Bolaisse has provided that cover, which has impaired his ability to get upfield. You lumped him in as attack minded and equivocated that to mean = scoring goals, which isn't fair. He can be attack minded and attack the wide parts of the field and provide service into the middle. That's not a goal scoring role.
Second of all, Gana shouldn't be playing as a box to box midfielder. Again, not his fault. He probably would score around 5, he has one, and has been close recently, but obviously, when he is playing with Davies and Rooney, he's allowed to play his true role and the team is better off for it.
Third of all, Sigurdsson doesn't, never has, and never will be a holding midfielder. Never at Swans, for Iceland, Spurs, anyone. If he's being asked to do that, hold the ball, possess the ball, it's stupid and a waste of his talents. He's got an amazing first touch, scores a ton from outside the box, and can set up his teammates in that fashion, but he's not Rooney, he's not Barkley, and any manager that asks him to play like that is a moron. Thankfully, he's not being asked to do so for the most part.
Fourth of all, you started in on the soccer isn't your game stuff. You don't know jack about mine or anyone else's experience playing or coaching the sport on the board. If you want to argue and discuss, fine, but let's not reduce this board to a pissing contest please.
CRIMHEAD
Player Valuation: £40m
Interesting list. Couple things...
...Dowell isn't in the best form right now, so I think lumping him in with those guys is a bit premmature, nor would I consider him a winger or even an outside player. Vlasic can play a bit out there, though, so think we can lump him in there.
But your point is spot on and is the big concern. Bergwijn is good, but we've got a lot in that area of the pitch coming on.
Dendonker isn't quick, although a good player, however do we really need to replace Morgan? If we are going to pick up someone like N'Zonzi who can get forward, too, fine, but we (and really any club) cannot afford to have some slow, limited player sit in that hole that never goes forward. I also don't want anyone in that role that can't keep up with attacking players. Tired of seeing players at the top of the box make one quick move and get a clean shot off without Morgan even moving. Gana should be in that role. Better to look at a box to box that compliments Gana better.
We can also pay De Vrij, but I'm not sure if we should. I'd be a bit surprised if one of the big 6 take a run at him. Not entirely sure how good he really is.
Sorry mate I didn't literally mean you should give up watching football, it's just a bit of a standard throwaway comment when you think someone's wrong.
OK so you meant a holding midfielder. You said he shouldn't be asked to 'hold the ball' which is why I was confused. The 'holding' in holding midfielder relates to holding your position on the pitch, not to holding the ball, which is a basic prerequisite wherever you're playing, hence me thinking that your statement was pretty bizarre.
On Bolasie I guess it's just agree to disagree. I'm not a fan of giving players very limited scope and just saying 'your job is to cross and nothing else', I expect players to contribute in more than one aspect of the game and for me, in the formation we play, it is imperative that the wide players chip in with at least a handful of goals, otherwise we simply don't offer enough threat, particularly when we're also saying Gueye shouldn't be expected to score either. That only leaves us maybe 4 players who we think should be expected to ever score for us, and that's if we include someone like Davies, who isn't exactly prolific himself or potentially even Schneiderlin.
Don't get me wrong, I completely agree that goalscoring isn't Bolasie's strength - that's the whole point. I think you're wrong if you believe that managers would be happy to tell him to go out and not worry about scoring though, i'm positive that he's been told he needs to be more productive and add goals to his game, and if he can't then he'll be moved on.
He came up as a midfielder.
Ive just found out there is a player called Ronaldo Viera, we simply must sign him, I have no idea where he plays, but sign him for Gods sake, what a name.
Everton’s Tom Davies and Leeds United’s Ronaldo Vieira are among the most promising young players in Europe, according to the CIES Football Observatory.
Everton’s Tom Davies and Leeds United’s Ronaldo Vieira are among the most promising young players in Europe, according to the CIES Football Observatory.
He's English so therefore too expensive.
argietoffee
Player Valuation: £20m
Semedo kid from Villarreal should be cheap
Simon Buttle
Player Valuation: £60m
What, the one just been charged with attempted murder!!
Strange a footballer would even be interested in robbery; aren't they rich enough?!
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