Ross Barkley

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Here's what Koeman's position is on Barkley: he sees him as a player that he can build a team around, but only if he becomes consistent. It makes no sense to do that if his form is sporadic. I get that.

But Ross is Ross and he needs the velvet glove more than the iron fist. It's all down to how you coax out the consistency. I'm afraid Koeman is just going to crush a butterfly of a talent on a wheel if he hooks him and undermines his confidence.

Koeman is maybe not the best manager to get the best out of Barkley. That's my biggest fear. And that would be a minor disaster for us.
Martinez was soft and very pro Ross. That did not help.
 


he had a great start to the season, one bad half and people are jumping all over him again. Leave it put lads, he should still start v boro and will probably score. There'll be less posts in this thread following that.
 
he had a great start to the season, one bad half and people are jumping all over him again. Leave it put lads, he should still start v boro and will probably score. There'll be less posts in this thread following that.
one bad half? he stunk in the entire match v stoke - i was there. just because he had 4 shots at goal and the media were saying that big sam would be impressed by his mom display is ridiculous - if we had not won that match he would have been villified for his misses. He can't trap a ball, he can't pick a pass, in fact he passes it straight to the opposition sometimes and sets up their attacks.

the lad has gone backwards.
 
barkley has great talent but seemingly less rigor. to me, he doesn't seem particularly reflective as a player.

I think that's the core reason his decision making is still terrible, he seems to struggle to recognize situations in-game. I think he's fairly instinctual, which is what let's him pull off those marvelous turns and miraculous counters-- honestly, in part because they make no sense to attempt half the time-- but fails him in more basic instances of "how do I work a through ball" or "am I telegraphing this pass"
 
I do think he's a confidence player at the moment, but if he has any chance to being a long term foundational player for us and england he's got to overcome this, find consistency, and-- more importantly-- learn how to learn

a theme for koeman about our forward play is often possession loss and poor touches in key moments. barkley is a huge problem for us in that regard and it's an anchor on his game developing.
 

I do have hope that koeman is softer with him in necessary moments and I'm completely in barkley's corner. I want him to blossom into a powerhouse for us and I think he can.
 
I do have hope that koeman is softer with him in necessary moments and I'm completely in barkley's corner. I want him to blossom into a powerhouse for us and I think he can.

Think it's just a balance thing, he's just had a manager who'd let him play with complete freedom and would claim everything to be phenomenal. He could probably use some tougher love, obviously not Moyes levels of it. Just somewhere in between what he's had under his previous two managers.
 
Mismanaged for most of his career so far.. there's a supremely talented player in there but he'll need his bad habits training out of him. Koeman is the man to do this.
Perhaps Moyes was right not to rush him into the first team as he could see his weakness in certain area's. Unfortunately for Ross, Martinez was his mentor for the last 3 years
 
Perhaps Moyes was right not to rush him into the first team as he could see his weakness in certain area's. Unfortunately for Ross, Martinez was his mentor for the last 3 years
don't see how martinez negatively impacted barkley at all. was probably the right manager at the right time for him as an individual
 

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