Ross Barkley

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I feel Barkley needs Koeman to give him a lot of one on one coaching. Not just technical skill but game management lessons and when to do what, field position etc etc. Would help a lot and the time wouldn't be wasted if you consider the potential we're talking about
 
BornBlue76 said:
I feel Barkley needs Koeman to give him a lot of one on one coaching. Not just technical skill but game management lessons and when to do what, field position etc etc. Would help a lot and the time wouldn't be wasted if you consider the potential we're talking about
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Maybe.

I'm not agreeing with some posts in another thread saying 'he's another Rodwell' - he's much better than that. Having said that, he does need a bit of sock pulling up and finger pulling out.

He's not the finished article yet, but at what age can he no longer be considered 'potential'?

Is his problem confidence? Or is he simply off form? It happens to all players, maybe he just needs a lucky break or a rest and he'll be firing on all cylinders again.

We want Ross to be ace and rightly so, and he is very good - question is how good? Are we overrating him because he's ours? I don't think we are, I think he's a very good player in general, who may have simply lost his way last season (like a lot of our players did) and has taken a little longer to recover his form, and just needs a nudge in the right direction.
 
It's frustrating sometimes when you want him to pass but he shoots and it goes over, then the next chance he has is a blatant shooting opportunity but his head is telling him to pass, so he pauses and passes wide or backwards. He needs to just know how good he is and be more ruthless. Hope Koeman gives him the confidence to do it
 
I love Ross, Great blue and all that...skillfull as you like but he just doesnt have the nouse of the Gerrard's or Gazza's out there. Martinez for all his faults saw the potential and tried to give him freedom, Hoping it would give him a springboard for using his talents....it worked for a time too. Koeman on the other hand wants to win matches...plain and simple, If Ross doesnt perform he will be dropped. Koeman won't show the same patience with him. It's really down to Ross now. If he has it, He has to show it asap or could find himself another should have been great.
This season is it for him imo. Very sad.
Best player on the pitch one game and completely missing for 3 others.
Grab a pair of balls, Run through brickwalls..use the natural gifts you were given.....SHOOT !!! DON'T THINK LAD !!!
 
RomanReigns said:
one bad half? he stunk in the entire match v stoke - i was there. just because he had 4 shots at goal and the media were saying that big sam would be impressed by his mom display is ridiculous - if we had not won that match he would have been villified for his misses. He can't trap a ball, he can't pick a pass, in fact he passes it straight to the opposition sometimes and sets up their attacks.

the lad has gone backwards.
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He hasn't and he didn't stink the place out against Stoke. And no he wouldn't have been vilified, just as Rom shouldn't have been for his misses.

People need to get a grip.

When he first came onto the scene he was an unknown quantity, now he has tow markers on him every game - and he still makes things look easy that other midfielders can only dream of doing - but we take it for granted because we're so used to it.

Improvements to be made and you can be sure he's working hard to get better. But the over-reaction from certain sections of our support is disappointing
 
Groucho said:
Maybe.

I'm not agreeing with some posts in another thread saying 'he's another Rodwell' - he's much better than that. Having said that, he does need a bit of sock pulling up and finger pulling out.

He's not the finished article yet, but at what age can he no longer be considered 'potential'?

Is his problem confidence? Or is he simply off form? It happens to all players, maybe he just needs a lucky break or a rest and he'll be firing on all cylinders again.

We want Ross to be ace and rightly so, and he is very good - question is how good? Are we overrating him because he's ours? I don't think we are, I think he's a very good player in general, who may have simply lost his way last season (like a lot of our players did) and has taken a little longer to recover his form, and just needs a nudge in the right direction.
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Older than 22 Grouch
 
davek said:
Here's what Koeman's position is on Barkley: he sees him as a player that he can build a team around, but only if he becomes consistent. It makes no sense to do that if his form is sporadic. I get that.

But Ross is Ross and he needs the velvet glove more than the iron fist. It's all down to how you coax out the consistency. I'm afraid Koeman is just going to crush a butterfly of a talent on a wheel if he hooks him and undermines his confidence.

Koeman is maybe not the best manager to get the best out of Barkley. That's my biggest fear. And that would be a minor disaster for us.
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Just to confirm, are you making Barkley undroppable Dave?
 
What do you do, start him again the wknd or Del starts? Sure he knows he wasn't good enough on Monday and would have have a chat with Koeman.
Best way to put it to bed I suppose but what message that send out to players esp Del.
Very interesting to see how Koeman handles this one. Whatever it is il be behind him
 
mikeh72 said:
Well that's clearly not right because we subbed him the other day and won.
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It's a tricky one that. There's no knowing if it was the removal of Barkley (in isolation) that led to the win. Perhaps it was the inclusion of Ged that won it, and we would've seen the same improvement had Mirallas been subbed.

Just not sure you can pin the win directly on the removal of Barkley.
 
The Cowboy said:
It's a tricky one that. There's no knowing if it was the removal of Barkley (in isolation) that led to the win. Perhaps it was the inclusion of Ged that won it, and we would've seen the same improvement had Mirallas been subbed.

Just not sure you can pin the win directly on the removal of Barkley.
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Well we'll never know that, but what we do know for a fact is that we played far better in the second half after replacing Barkley with Deulofeu. So to say it was the incorrect sub simply doesn't hold any water.
 
mikeh72 said:
Well we'll never know that, but what we do know for a fact is that we played far better in the second half after replacing Barkley with Deulofeu. So to say it was the incorrect sub simply doesn't hold any water.
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I'm not saying it was the incorrect sub, just saying it could well have been the presence of Ged that won the game rather than the removal of RB. Will need a bit more empirical evidence to determine that.
 
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