Joel Robles

[Jags..class]

7/10

I'm not convinced he good enough to be our number 1. We are one of the best teams in Europe and can do better. We can pay up to around 70k a week for the right player.

 

[scratchnsurf]

7/10

I'm not convinced he good enough to be our number 1. We are one of the best teams in Europe and can do better. We can pay up to around 70k a week for the right player.

Have you just woken up after a thirty year snooze? If so, you'd better sit down as I have some rather upsetting news for you.

 

[Caolam]

I am also unsure about his ability to be our first choice keeper when we reclaim our rightful position in the scheme of things, but he hasn't done anything to show us that he is not capable. He deserves his shot.

 

[mlyons]

Why what mate? Confused.

You said he looked goofy and silly when he conceded. Why does it matter how he looks when a goal is conceded?

 

[mlyons]

You need glasses, you stated Coleman was on the line on the back post for the corner causing the deflected goal - please look again - As a team we never put anyone on the post look at the West Ham game yesterday theirs saved a goal kicking it off the line a man on either post it's not rocket science just basics our defensive coach needs sacking along with the manager IMO!

I understand what you're saying -- I just don't see how that goal would have been prevented if Coleman had started the play planted on the far post. He still would have been right there getting in Robles' way and having the ball deflect off of him when the header came in, wouldn't he?

I don't get the obsession with putting people on the posts when defending corners. I guess it comes down to whether you prefer zonal marking or man marking on a corner, but I've always felt that having defenders standing on a post just makes it more likely that you give up a scoring chance (since you've taken two defenders away from marking attackers and attacking the cross). If that chance comes somewhere near the post, I guess it works out, but I'd rather see the chance not given up in the first place. That assumes you actually have defenders capable of defending crosses, of course, but if they can't do that (like our defenders clearly can't) it doesn't matter where they start the play.

 

[Joey66]

I understand what you're saying -- I just don't see how that goal would have been prevented if Coleman had started the play planted on the far post. He still would have been right there getting in Robles' way and having the ball deflect off of him when the header came in, wouldn't he?

I don't get the obsession with putting people on the posts when defending corners. I guess it comes down to whether you prefer zonal marking or man marking on a corner, but I've always felt that having defenders standing on a post just makes it more likely that you give up a scoring chance (since you've taken two defenders away from marking attackers and attacking the cross). If that chance comes somewhere near the post, I guess it works out, but I'd rather see the chance not given up in the first place. That assumes you actually have defenders capable of defending crosses, of course, but if they can't do that (like our defenders clearly can't) it doesn't matter where they start the play.

Did you observe the West Ham game then?
A defender on the line has a clear view zonal making in what we do is chaos!

 

[mlyons]

Did you observe the West Ham game then?
A defender on the line has a clear view zonal making in what we do is chaos!

I'm not defending what we do on corners. Nobody seems to have any idea what their assignment is. I just don't think it'd be any better with fullbacks on the posts. That would just mean the other seven defenders would have an even harder time marking attacking players and attacking the cross.

 

[Dymak]

Imagine you are a decent goalkeeper, are you really going to want to join a club run by Roberto Martinez? You'd be committing career suicide.

 

[Joey66]

I'm not defending what we do on corners. Nobody seems to have any idea what their assignment is. I just don't think it'd be any better with fullbacks on the posts. That would just mean the other seven defenders would have an even harder time marking attacking players and attacking the cross.

You logic is the same as RMs hence we leak goals from crosses you defend as a unit with a ball winner in the air we have not got one other than Fumes Mori?
Robles made two great saves yesterday stopped two certain goals yet he is still learning I agree but 100 percent better than Timmy!

 

[Jags..class]

You logic is the same as RMs hence we leak goals from crosses you defend as a unit with a ball winner in the air we have not got one other than Fumes Mori?
Robles made two great saves yesterday stopped two certain goals yet he is still learning I agree but 100 percent better than Timmy!

Yes, we don't have many aggressive players who can head a ball. It's a big weakness for us.

 

[Blue Cheese]

7/10

I'm not convinced he good enough to be our number 1. We are one of the best teams in Europe and can do better. We can pay up to around 70k a week for the right player.

 

[mlyons]

You logic is the same as RMs hence we leak goals from crosses you defend as a unit with a ball winner in the air we have not got one other than Fumes Mori?
Robles made two great saves yesterday stopped two certain goals yet he is still learning I agree but 100 percent better than Timmy!

My logic is nothing at all like Martinez's. He thinks we don't need to train on defending corners. I think we do. All I'm saying is that if nobody has any idea what they're supposed to be doing on corners (and we never look like we do), it doesn't matter whether we mark zonally, man-for-man, or make a damn human pyramid in front of the goal, we're still going to leak goals on set pieces.

With the personnel we have, I think we'd be better off marking man-for-man than zonally, simply because we don't really have too many people who can dominate in the air so I think we'd be better off making sure every attacker has a body on them than relying on a couple of guys parking themselves in the six yard box and trying to head everything away (which is what zonal marking generally ends up coming down to). To do that, though, everyone has to know ahead of time who they're supposed to be marking, how to switch men if you get screened off, etc. We don't seem to have any clue about that, though.

 

[efc.1878]

7/10

I'm not convinced he good enough to be our number 1. We are one of the best teams in Europe and can do better. We can pay up to around 70k a week for the right player.

One of the best teams in Europe?! We're only just the 14th best team in England mate.

 

[hktoffee]

7/10

I'm not convinced he good enough to be our number 1. We are one of the best teams in Europe and can do better. We can pay up to around 70k a week for the right player.

We are 14th in PL.

 

[Donald Twain]

What would Dougie say !