2025/26 David Moyes

[st.domingo]

At least more than twice a decade like.

Would be nice.

 

[Swartzy]

Hilarious, if Moyes gets rid of DOF role and appoints the Director in charge of Scouting and Recruitment who exactly is responsible for last summer?!

The owners brought Kinnear in, who couldn't come in until his contract with Leeds was done. Kinnear is the man in charge, not Moyes. he will have the Discussion on whether he thinks we need a different manager, he is the reason we bought a Data/annalytics firm..
Both him and Moyes will be held accountable but he has been brought in to build the club going forward, not Moyes.

All that happens on here is go around in circles about the Window, the answer is obvious..

 

[Neiler]

Kinnear is TFG he's their man on the ground.

 

[Duncan’s Pigeon Loft]

Yep, much worse Everton teams in the 90s beat better Liverpool teams a good few times.

There’s probably no other derby in football as one sided as this. Newly promoted Sunderland did the double over champions league Newcastle the richest club in the world. Poor City teams pre-takeover beat brilliant United teams. Even a terrible Leeds team have just won away at Old Trafford with United in third.

It’s a complete surrender by everyone at Everton and if we have any desire to be a serious football club again it can’t go on.

If Moyes is manager next season we’re not winning the Anfield derby and we’ll be hoping for a point at Goodison. If we are hoping to keep climbing th table then they’ll be in our orbit and we simply cannot keep gifting them 4-6 points every single season.

It actually used to do my head in in the 90s when we always turned up against them and often beat them - only for us to flap it the following against Coventry or Southampton etc who where rivals at the bottom.

I’m really not sure on the whole Moyes stay/go. Im massively on the fence. I think he’s done a decent job since he returned and the difference between us now from the later Dyche days is night and day. He’s completely taken relegation off the agenda. But at the same time you know that there is a ceiling to him and his use of the squad and treatment of certain players compared to others this season has baffled me. The surrender to Wolves in the LC was a major black mark. We could easily be up in 5th if he wouldn’t have been so rigid on occasions.

Overall though he’s improved and stabilised us so I don’t begrudge him another year - he’s probably earned it and I’m grateful for the job he’s done (both stints). But the club need to be succession planning NOW on the manager front - he’ll only ever take us so far and a lot of that is down to his inferiority complex against certain teams and especially them lot.

 

[PhilRegan]

See hes already down playing next season , stating weve over achieved this year .

 

[davek]

No manager should ever be judged on 2 games a season.

It is a poor record, but the be all and all of a football season does not rest on just 2 games. The less emotional fans, and the non-agenda driven ones, will be looking a the whole picture and critique his time here on everything, not just matches against one team.

Yes, it is a derby, but apart from one manager, in my lifetime, every Everton manager can be seen as having a poor win record against them.

...so the ones who aren't Evertonians then?

Who on earth remains 'unemotional' at constant derby defeats?

Heard it all now.

This "Moyes 2.0" character has come back in here and in 16 months lost us 3 derbies.

He should be down the road with a kick up the arse, the useless turd.

 

[davek]

Glasners beat them more times in 6 games

Says it all...and with all the resources that Palace have....

 

[davek]

I am not a Moyes fan as you know and never will be. If he is that a good a manager why did Man U get shut in one year, not to mention his short holiday in Spain and then London where he was also shoved .

He's a clueless tactician. Those Man United players could smell it on him as soon as he walked in and rebelled against him because of it.

Ferguson knew the game inside and out as well as being a disciplinarian. All Moyes had to offer United was being from Glasgow, being a cod disciplinarian, and only a thimbleful of football nous.

 

[wandyr79]

...so the ones who aren't Evertonians then?

Who on earth remains 'unemotional' at constant derby defeats?

Heard it all now.

This "Moyes 2.0" character has come back in here and in 16 months lost us 3 derbies.

He should be down the road with a kick up the arse, the useless turd.

I try not to get too up and down with the emotions of football, anymore. Once nearly got me sacked because I was still in a mood on the Monday after the Clattenburg derby. It is unhealthy. Although, as I put in another response, maybe emotional was the wrong word.

I suppose it will sound too preachy to explain that it is best to take a step back and realise that football should not be governing your whole emotional state for days after a game, even a derby result. The cliche rings true for me 'never too high, never too low'. Yesterday, straight after kick off, I went for a walk in the sun with my wife, and everything was great with the world, had a nice relaxed Sunday after that.

'Useless turd'?. I know, I know, it is a waste of time even trying to have a grown up debate with you, but seriously, how old are you?

 

[Iana]

That is the definition of an inferiority complex right there. The only way that statistic could be justified is if Liverpool were the best side Moyes faced in his Premier League tenure. Then it would make sense that his PPG against them was the lowest of all opponents. But in the period of Moyes's tenures, Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea, and Manchester City have all been more dominant. It's only the Jürgen Klopp Liverpool era that compares to those clubs, and that was only a portion of those 41 matches. In other words, Moyes's failure against Liverpool has come largely against Houllier, Benitez, Dalglish, Hodgson, Rodgers, and now Slot.

We will never compete on anything approaching even a 40-60 level with Liverpool as long as the conservative's conservative doffs his hat to our "betters". In what should be our biggest rivalry, Moyes diminishes us. And people think this fella might win something with us...

We did not lose a derby match at Goodison between Feb 1990 and April 2001 which was a period when we had 6 managers, 2 massive last game relegation deciders and one huge relegation battle decided on penultimate game of season,3 different owners and 1 FA Cup victory.

Then David Moyes turned up and for all his work in improving us in his first tenure the facts don’t lie.

 

[chip butty]

His acolytes won't care...mediocrity = success.

 

[Iana]

We lost 2 Derby matches at Goodison between 2013 and 2025 post Moyes…a last minute loss under Koeman and the 4-1 mauling under Benitez.

His home record against Liverpool in that first period of management gets worse the more I look at it.

I think I’d better stop…

 

[davids]

I did not think the Chelsea game was a massive departure from how we usually play it just went really well on the day.

That's football, sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. Moyes sets up the team to suit the players we have,if he'd tried to play open expansion football yesterday more likely it would have been 1:4 at least.

 

[davids]

So your saying our team has no identity and every week we dont know what we are going to get? Sounds like a manager problem to me...

The same players crossed the white line yesterday that crossed it v Chelsea. Do you really think he told them to play any differently?

 

[COYBL25]

I try not to get too up and down with the emotions of football, anymore. Once nearly got me sacked because I was still in a mood on the Monday after the Clattenburg derby. It is unhealthy. Although, as I put in another response, maybe emotional was the wrong word.

I suppose it will sound too preachy to explain that it is best to take a step back and realise that football should not be governing your whole emotional state for days after a game, even a derby result. The cliche rings true for me 'never too high, never too low'. Yesterday, straight after kick off, I went for a walk in the sun with my wife, and everything was great with the world, had a nice relaxed Sunday after that.

'Useless turd'?. I know, I know, it is a waste of time even trying to have a grown up debate with you, but seriously, how old are you?

Same here mate.

Couldn’t get a ticket / wouldn’t pay the price.

It was a glorious afternoon and went to watch my mates lad play in a cup final.

Life’s too short.