The Spurs situation and Everton

I see parallels with what happened to us under Moshiri, buying players rather than building a team, unfortunately we can out of money / hit a regulatory wall to spend our way out of it so the downward spiral after Edam head was hard to halt.
Whether spurs have the cash, the will to spend it and a dash of fortune with their managerial decisions will play out over the next season or two I guess.
Yeah they very much do look like that. They remind me of us in that era in the sense that they seem to have spent decent money on a load of players who are theoretically good but in reality don't actually produce much.
 
They're in the knock out stages of the CL, won the Europa League last year, reached the CL final 7 years ago, and before last season hadn't finished outside the top 8 for 16 years (with 7 top 4 finishes in that time). It's undoubtedly a more shocking downfall than ours in a footballing context, if not a historical one.
Is it any more of a big deal than Leeds, CL semi finalists in 01/02 and completely imploded and relegated in 02/03?
Or Newcastle after their exploits under Robson and Keegan?

All a bit meh as far as I’m concerned.
 
I disagree Groucho. If this club hit the buffers right now we'd be in trouble. Relegated in fact.

No one can connect with this new place yet, and the dynamics around it of keeping people out (and not getting them to it efficiently enough) and denying our identity for corporate contract reasons would do for us. Championship team in the making if we're not VERY careful.
This is far too pessimistic an outlook even for you.

We could not stagnate and moving has helped us move with the times. We’re aiming for Europe once more after years of abject misery and near administration (777).

Look up, it’s brighter.
 
Is it any more of a big deal than Leeds, CL semi finalists in 01/02 and completely imploded and relegated in 02/03?
Or Newcastle after their exploits under Robson and Keegan?

All a bit meh as far as I’m concerned.
There's obviously a level of hyperbole with any article like that but the basic principle is fair. Very very few people would have predicted Spurs to be relegated at the start of the season so by definition it would be a massive shock in that sense. Your Leeds years are out by one both ways which obviously makes a pretty massive difference, they massively overspent and were clearly paying for it the year they went down, they'd sold a load of their good players and the only player they signed that year was Jody Morris on a free. Spurs have spent over £200m this year and started the season with a new manager who loads of people were convinced was a genius.
 
Is it any more of a big deal than Leeds, CL semi finalists in 01/02 and completely imploded and relegated in 02/03?
Or Newcastle after their exploits under Robson and Keegan?

All a bit meh as far as I’m concerned.
West Ham with the likes of Joe Cole and Defoe playing for them as well. There has to always be something BIG or ‘unprecedented’ happening or football journalists wouldn’t have anything to talk about.
 
West Ham with the likes of Joe Cole and Defoe playing for them as well. There has to always be something BIG or ‘unprecedented’ happening or football journalists wouldn’t have anything to talk about.
Everything has to be BREAKING NEWS.

“This just in……..”

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I think this is a massive example of ‘anyone can go down’. It would be similar to Leicester winning the league if Spurs went, I do think they are going to just survive though.

The problem has been, yet again, you cannot let your best players go and not replace them with anyone. Son left, Kane left, you cannot replace them, unless you do actually go out and do it, they haven’t.

People are crying out for success and winning cups however should that come at a cost of staying in the richest league in the world. If Spurs or West Ham do go then that’s a massive example of 2 huge clubs who have been recently had European success, both recently moved stadiums and spend a fortune.

The problem is here is the players who will probably leave both clubs;

West Ham, Bowen, Souchek, Summerville, Diouf, Kilman

Spurs: Maddison, Richarlison, Van De Ven, Porro, Solanke, Xavi Simmons

They then have to try and replace those players. It’s going to be so so tough for them. But it does go to show you that you’re never safe until you’re safe. Next season for us, we need some really good positive summer signings and we desperately need to find an Ekitake type of striker, a right winger, a right back, a left back. We have to go out and really go for it in the summer now.
 
They have a lot of talent in their squad, but I think you can put their problems down to three things:

1) Injuries and suspensions. Freakish number of players they've had missing.

2) Squad building a little haphazard - they've bought players for very different styles and systems in the last few years and some of the players they've gambled on haven't worked out for a number of reasons.

3) Linked to number 2, they've lurched from one way of playing to another without any clear plan. The Frank appointment was, I think, in part to address this because he's a bit vanilla about styles, but essentially they can't decide on their identity.

If they go down, it's the biggest failure of the PL era. I still can't see it though - eventually they'll manage to get 2 or wins and they'll be ok.
 
This is far too pessimistic an outlook even for you.

We could not stagnate and moving has helped us move with the times. We’re aiming for Europe once more after years of abject misery and near administration (777).

Look up, it’s brighter.
Not in a basement it isn't, it's dark, dark, dark..
 

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