2025/26 David Moyes

[jceverton]

Do you think Dyche was on the phone wheeling and dealing to sell players?

It's an irrelevant point. The fact is that Dyche was operating under a massively different set of financial circumstances. To deny that is to deny reality.

 

[jceverton]

He spent 100m though so we should be top

This is just a strawman argument. No one's actually said this

 

[BarryTheBlue]

Here's the thread. C'mon we sold £153 million worth of players while he was manger and spent £79 million that's a negative net spend of £74 million. It's fair to point out the circumstances of the comparison between Moyes and Dyche and btw I'm not arguing that Dyche is a better manager because I don't think he is. The fact that you are denying the simple reality under which Dyche had to operate is frankly bizarre.

Of the 153m brought in, how many of those players where first teamers? how many realistically would Dyche have called on?

 

[Gwladys St. Glory]

How many blues would have jumped at Frank or Howe before Moyes came back?

Everton and the act of jumping is only synonymous with cliffs and 2nd story windows.

 

[Delargeinho]

No mate, Dyche had to sell Maupey and Holgate so couldn't compete

Class players deeply miss them. Maybe the only good one was Onana, who didn‘t even play a key role at the end under him.

 

[BarryTheBlue]

Class players deeply miss them. Maybe the only good one was Onana, who didn‘t even play a key role at the end under him.

Wouldn't have Onana back if he was on a free

 

[Gilbert..]

Here's the thread. C'mon we sold £153 million worth of players while he was manger and spent £79 million that's a negative net spend of £74 million. It's fair to point out the circumstances of the comparison between Moyes and Dyche and btw I'm not arguing that Dyche is a better manager because I don't think he is. The fact that you are denying the simple reality under which Dyche had to operate is frankly bizarre.

You probably spent about 10 minutes researching a list to pad it out with players like tom canyon and moise keane lol.
Players who were nowhere near Dyche team. I didnt even bring up Moyes. But seeing as you did.
Moyes got the sort of form out of the same players Dyche had that was chalk n cheese. It pisses people off. He's battered him 5-0 on aggregate this season as well.
He's a better manager. Just deal with it.

 

[jceverton]

Coz t therye is no argument

Which is why no one is making it. However it's bizarre that stating that Moyes and Dyche operated under completely different financial circumstances seems controversial.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

It's an irrelevant point. The fact is that Dyche was operating under a massively different set of financial circumstances. To deny that is to deny reality.

Or maybe Moyes is just, you know, better?

 

[Swartzy]

62 points seems more than reasonable to me so where ever that gets you.

Nearly 2pts a game than ?

 

[jceverton]

You probably spent about 10 minutes researching a list to pad it out with players like tom canyon and moise keane lol.
Players who were nowhere near Dyche team. I didnt even bring up Moyes. But seeing as you did.
Moyes got the sort of form out of the same players Dyche had that was chalk n cheese. It pisses people off. He's battered him 5-0 on aggregate this season as well.
He's a better manager. Just deal with it.

Your arguments are getting more and more bizarre. I've already stated that I think Moyes is a better manager than Dyche. But if you can't see that managing the club with a negative net spend of £74 million is a different situation than Moyes's management of the club under TFG then there's not much hope for you.

 

[jceverton]

Or maybe Moyes is just, you know, better?

The two aren't mutually exclusive. Moyes can be a better manager than Dyche and Dyche can have managed the club under a completely different set of financial circumstances to Moyes. Maybe nuance isn't your strong point.

 

[jceverton]

Nearly 2pts a game than ?

Do the maths

 

[smileychap]

I didn’t realise how much Tottenham have spent, they have regressed in the league so much as well

Yup, good ole manager merry go round will do that. Luckily Everton avoided such a decli.. Oh.

On the up now. Moyes did well again last trot and ok this. Albeit why we didn't land a full back with Europe wide open is madness, as were some of on-pitch displays this season.

Big game tomorrow.... a decent confident 3pts against Bournemouth and Europe is still on.

Do it Davey. Pressure them. Decent balls in. Attack!

 

[Gilbert..]

Your arguments are getting more and more bizarre. I've already stated that I think Moyes is a better manager than Dyche. But if you can't see that managing the club with a negative net spend of £74 million is a different situation than Moyes's management of the club under TFG then there's not much hope for you.

I dont care about players sold that he hardly used. If ever used. The original argument being made was players were sold under him so he couldnt peform well. His main players were not sold from under him.
He never had a budget. That parts true.