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Marco Silva’s Warning

Marco Silva has warned his players there is nowhere to hide following a poor start to the 2019/20 season.

Marco Silva said: “It is not the moment for anyone to hide.

“I said it inside the dressing room, too [after the Sheffield United defeat] – there is nowhere we can hide, we have to show stronger character, personality.

“Unfortunately, in some ­moments, we didn’t see that. Now I don’t want anyone hiding, not me, not them. It is a moment for us to go and play football and to take ­responsibility as well.

“In the second half, I didn’t see that ability and in some moments many players were hiding and didn’t give solutions. I want ­everyone there – football is about playing and showing strong ­character. No one can hide.

“No one, I am always here for you, I am ­always here for our fans, I will not hide, no one can hide.”

The comments follow club captain’s Seamus Coleman‘s comments, who prior Everton’s 2-0 defeat to Sheffield United, spoke of a lack of bravery.

  1. [URL unfurl=”true”]https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/09/23/marco-silva-unhappy-everton-players-hiding-side-prepares-crucial/[/URL]

    Who is this complaining to the paper? It would seem to be someone with knowledge of how training goes day to day at FF. Someone with an axe to grind? All is not well it seems. Dissenters in the ranks. What next?

  2. [QUOTE=”bol-uk, post: 7306466, member: 11150″]
    Something fishy here
    [/QUOTE]
    Hmm, I immediately thought of Kinghowie’s epic meltdown in the witchunt thread… sure that’s just coincidental.

  3. [QUOTE=”Agent Blue, post: 7306996, member: 43307″]
    Walcott’s game has always been about pace and he reminds me of Bolasie in a way, in that he is more of an athlete than a footballer. He was decent for Arsenal when he was younger but the years are catching up with him now. I still think Henry would be a better attacking coach than Ferguson though.
    [/QUOTE]
    I was expecting Walcott to get more composed in front of goal as he matured, seems to have gone the opposite. Not sure big Dunc should have any role on staff, Henry crashed and burned at Monaco.

  4. [QUOTE=”1966efc, post: 7307261, member: 23250″]
    [B]Tuesday [/B]night in April ’70.
    [/QUOTE]

    I was 4. Probably long in bed!!

  5. [QUOTE=”matty1878, post: 7306447, member: 2298″]
    How about with Gomes, and gbamin out he’s had to
    [/QUOTE]
    They’re both still out for tonight and yet strangely he’s managed to not play the dynamic duo.

  6. [QUOTE=”1966efc, post: 7307261, member: 23250″]
    [B]Tuesday [/B]night in April ’70.
    [/QUOTE] long before my time

  7. [QUOTE=”PITA, post: 7307000, member: 12437″]
    When was this?
    [/QUOTE]
    [QUOTE=”J.c. 7.4, post: 7307037, member: 51837″]
    I Can’t remember us winning the league in a night game at goodison, can anyone else ?
    [/QUOTE]
    [QUOTE=”PITA, post: 7307124, member: 12437″]
    This might be one for Methuselah.
    Alternatively it didn’t happen and we have another WUM in our midst.
    [/QUOTE]

    [B]Tuesday [/B]night in April ’70.

  8. [QUOTE=”mikeh72, post: 7306386, member: 17469″]
    Is that a serious question? Sigurdsson has touched the ball a total of about 8 times in the opening 6 games. Our “captain” won’t say boo to a goose and we’re still playing Morgan Schneiderlin who pretty blatantly hides on the pitch and has done for the last two years.
    [/QUOTE]

    Funnily enough Coleman said the same thing last week. Player’s hiding from the ball. We know Schneidercrab does it but for the others it’s pretty strange. Very mentally weak.

  9. [QUOTE=”Johnniepk, post: 7307129, member: 28952″]
    It was Wednesday night in 1970. We beat West Brom 2-0
    [/QUOTE]
    I was there
    Whittle and Harvey
    Seems just like yesterday although I can’t actually remember what happened yesterday

  10. [QUOTE=”J.c. 7.4, post: 7307037, member: and Morgan 51837″]
    I Can’t remember us winning the league in a night game at goodison, can anyone else ?
    [/QUOTE]
    This might be one for Methuselah.
    Alternatively it didn’t happen and we have another WUM in our midst.

  11. [QUOTE=”Agent Blue, post: 7306653, member: 43307″]
    Maybe he could give Anthony Gordon a game, he would contribute far more to the team than Schneiderlin does, but until we get rid of this shabite 4 2 3 1 it doesn’t matter who he picks really.
    [/QUOTE]

    He needs to change something until he has better players bk

  12. [QUOTE=”HowieT, post: 7306402, member: 54391″]
    I think its time to get David Moyes back saw him at the airport and he said he would return Kenwright must just give him a call. The recent managers have outlayed lots of cash on average player that dont have the commitment to the side. I was at Goodison the night we won the league and those guys would have died for the shirt they wore for most of these players its a very well paid job. Why cant we buy quality we have bought a few but with the money we have spent we should have a side that can compete in the top 6 at least
    [/QUOTE]

    Hello, we meet again.

    [URL unfurl=”true”]https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/members/kinghowie.28273/[/URL]

  13. [QUOTE=”PITA, post: 7307000, member: 12437″]
    When was this?
    [/QUOTE]
    I Can’t remember us winning the league in a night game at goodison, can anyone else ?

  14. [QUOTE=”Ruairi77, post: 7306975, member: 5704″]
    he selected the captain and continuously plays the players who are hiding.
    [/QUOTE]

    I agree, and he should be criticised for that until he does something about it.

  15. [QUOTE=”HowieT, post: 7306402, member: 54391″]
    I think its time to get David Moyes back saw him at the airport and he said he would return Kenwright must just give him a call. The recent managers have outlayed lots of cash on average player that dont have the commitment to the side. I was at Goodison [B]the night we won the league[/B] and those guys would have died for the shirt they wore for most of these players its a very well paid job. Why cant we buy quality we have bought a few but with the money we have spent we should have a side that can compete in the top 6 at least
    [/QUOTE]
    When was this?

  16. [QUOTE=”Vic Flange, post: 7306977, member: 11899″]

    [/QUOTE]
    Walcott’s game has always been about pace and he reminds me of Bolasie in a way, in that he is more of an athlete than a footballer. He was decent for Arsenal when he was younger but the years are catching up with him now. I still think Henry would be a better attacking coach than Ferguson though.

  17. [QUOTE=”Agent Blue, post: 7306702, member: 43307″]
    Hit the nail on the head there, we need players with that winning mentality and that includes the coaches. How good would it be if we could get say Thierry Henry or van Nistlerooy or someone like them to coach the forwards. I would also like to see Peter Reid provide the motivation at half time if we have performances like the last two games.
    [/QUOTE]
    Thierry Henry! maybe not the best suggestion.
    Walcott when at the Arse, gave an interview saying he was learning the striking role from Henry. That worked out well then. Shit coach or shit player?

  18. [QUOTE=”Agent Blue, post: 7306702, member: 43307″]
    Hit the nail on the head there, we need players with that winning mentality and that includes the coaches. How good would it be if we could get say Thierry Henry or van Nistlerooy or someone like them to coach the forwards. I would also like to see Peter Reid provide the motivation at half time if we have performances like the last two games.
    [/QUOTE
    Thierry Henry! maybe not the greatest suggestion. Walcott gave an interview at that Arse, said he was learning the striking role from Henry. Shit coach or shit player?[/QUOTE]

  19. [QUOTE=”mikeh72, post: 7306397, member: 17469″]
    He is, but he isn’t wrong when he points out our players are complete cowards.
    [/QUOTE]
    he selected the captain and continuously plays the players who are hiding.

  20. [QUOTE=”mikeh72, post: 7306386, member: 17469″]
    Is that a serious question? Sigurdsson has touched the ball a total of about 8 times in the opening 6 games. Our “captain” won’t say boo to a goose and we’re still playing Morgan Schneiderlin who pretty blatantly hides on the pitch and has done for the last two years.
    [/QUOTE]
    Fine. Well friggin drop them and get someone in the team whose hungry then.

  21. Martinez, koeman fat sam and now silva all have played with the same formation. All were too stubborn to change. All were unsucessful.all were sacked. (Im including marco here!!)

    Not 1 of these managers have tried anything different for any reasonable period of time. Why not play 433 or 4132 at home from the off against the lower table clubs. Start attack from the off. Non stop for 90 mins. Big attacking intensity. Movement up front. Get the crowd onside.

    Believe in the players. Forget 2 holding midfielders. Forget crosses from outwide way outside the box. It has failed for 5 years. Long enough to be putting up with this crap sideways backwards slow passing with no movement.

    Marco is too stubborn like the others above.Wont change either like they didnt. Will be sacked like them too.

  22. [QUOTE=”COYBL25, post: 7306668, member: 8087″]
    MIna is pretty vocal too in fairness, as is Pickford.

    Although I think a lot of what Pickford says is a result of his tourettes, so it`s probably just a load of jumbled up swear words.
    [/QUOTE]
    Does Pickford have tourettes ? I know Tim Howard had it ,that is a hell of a coincidence.

  23. [QUOTE=”SantaClausisanEvertonian, post: 7306681, member: 39545″]
    Delph is a proven winner and has that winning mentality.
    Let’s hope that rubs off on the other players sooner, rather than later.
    [/QUOTE]
    So was Wayne…

  24. I feel for Silva, he’s said nothing wrong here in my view, but no-one wants to hear it from him. He desperately needs a result, because his authority and credibility is seeping away.

    [QUOTE=”Death, post: 7306407, member: 43971″]
    Once we find the person responsible for picking these players constantly he is in for it.
    [/QUOTE]

    The problem is the alternatives to those players come with their own problems. Most of these issues predate this manager. Doesn’t mean he isn’t responsible for his decisions of course.

  25. [QUOTE=”zzr45, post: 7306710, member: 14137″]
    Because there’s no link between being a good striker and being a good striking coach.
    [/QUOTE]
    You may have a point there as Koeman proved that good players don’t necessarily make good managers. It’s just that our forwards seem to always want that extra touch or second to think, which inevitably leads to the attack breaking down. Proven goal scorers could offer players like DCL mentorship and advice which surely would improve their game.

  26. [QUOTE=”Sheedy’s right knee., post: 7306714, member: 25713″]
    [B]I’m hoping it doesn’t go the other way. But yes it needs to be said. Even if it upsets the Apple cart short term.[/B]
    [/QUOTE]
    I was thinking our rubbish are more likely to being him down to our level!

  27. [QUOTE=”SantaClausisanEvertonian, post: 7306681, member: 39545″]
    Delph is a proven winner and has that winning mentality.
    Let’s hope that rubs off on the other players sooner, rather than later.
    [/QUOTE]
    [B]I’m hoping it doesn’t go the other way. But yes it needs to be said. Even if it upsets the Apple cart short term.[/B]

  28. [QUOTE=”Agent Blue, post: 7306702, member: 43307″]
    Hit the nail on the head there, we need players with that winning mentality and that includes the coaches. How good would it be if we could get say Thierry Henry or van Nistlerooy or someone like them to coach the forwards. I would also like to see Peter Reid provide the motivation at half time if we have performances like the last two games.
    [/QUOTE]
    Because there’s no link between being a good striker and being a good striking coach.

  29. [QUOTE=”SantaClausisanEvertonian, post: 7306681, member: 39545″]
    Delph is a proven winner and has that winning mentality.
    Let’s hope that rubs off on the other players sooner, rather than later.
    [/QUOTE]

    Hit the nail on the head there, we need players with that winning mentality and that includes the coaches. How good would it be if we could get say Thierry Henry or van Nistlerooy or someone like them to coach the forwards. I would also like to see Peter Reid provide the motivation at half time if we have performances like the last two games.

  30. [QUOTE=”The Penalty Box Dancer, post: 7306553, member: 38057″]
    What Silva says in relation to the second half against Sheffield United, it was his decision to go all out attack and leave us susceptible to the second goal which we eventually conceded. Players and manager both to blame but if Silva’s way of not hiding is to go gung ho with disregard to any tactical shape then that’s not going to achieve anything. You can’t play like that for half an hour, not against a half decent opposition. We haven’t played well once this season. Injuries to the midfield haven’t helped matters.
    [/QUOTE]
    tbf that was their only shot on target…

  31. [QUOTE=”Agent Blue, post: 7306674, member: 43307″]
    Thought Delph was far more vocal about the performance than Coleman and I hope we see that from him on a more regular basis.
    [/QUOTE]
    Delph is a proven winner and has that winning mentality.
    Let’s hope that rubs off on the other players sooner, rather than later.

  32. [QUOTE=”Bob Elstone, post: 7306655, member: 10623″]
    Coleman is the only one with a voice. Rest are utter spineless pretenders.
    [/QUOTE]

    Thought Delph was far more vocal about the performance than Coleman and I hope we see that from him on a more regular basis.

  33. [QUOTE=”Bob Elstone, post: 7306655, member: 10623″]
    Coleman is the only one with a voice. Rest are utter spineless pretenders.
    [/QUOTE]

    MIna is pretty vocal too in fairness, as is Pickford.

    Although I think a lot of what Pickford says is a result of his tourettes, so it`s probably just a load of jumbled up swear words.

  34. [QUOTE=”Bob Elstone, post: 7306655, member: 10623″]
    Coleman is the only one with a voice. Rest are utter spineless pretenders.
    [/QUOTE]

    Coleman has issues in other areas, but talking and leadership are not two of them

  35. [QUOTE=”Mikey_Fitzgerald, post: 7306637, member: 16760″]
    That’s patently untrue

    Seamus regularly talks on the pitch, including to the ref. The refs just ignore him because he plays for Everton
    [/QUOTE]

    Coleman is the only one with a voice. Rest are utter spineless pretenders.

  36. [QUOTE=”matty1878, post: 7306447, member: 2298″]
    How about with Gomes, and gbamin out he’s had to
    [/QUOTE]
    Maybe he could give Anthony Gordon a game, he would contribute far more to the team than Schneiderlin does, but until we get rid of this shabite 4 2 3 1 it doesn’t matter who he picks really.

  37. [QUOTE=”mikeh72, post: 7306386, member: 17469″]
    Is that a serious question? Sigurdsson has touched the ball a total of about 8 times in the opening 6 games.[B] Our “captain” won’t say boo to a goose[/B] and we’re still playing Morgan Schneiderlin who pretty blatantly hides on the pitch and has done for the last two years.
    [/QUOTE]

    That’s patently untrue

    Seamus regularly talks on the pitch, including to the ref. The refs just ignore him because he plays for Everton

  38. [QUOTE=”mikeh72, post: 7306386, member: 17469″]
    Is that a serious question? Sigurdsson has touched the ball a total of about 8 times in the opening 6 games. Our “captain” won’t say boo to a goose and we’re still playing Morgan Schneiderlin who pretty blatantly hides on the pitch and has done for the last two years.
    [/QUOTE]
    Spot on mate all the fans can see this why can’t a guy who has loads of coaching badges see it?

  39. He’s not wrong about many players hiding. The biggest culprit being Sigurdson, who hides for most games, yet is always a guaranteed starter. Double standards Marco.

  40. He’s clueless. Needs to take a look at himself. He picks the team, the useless tactics, pointless substitutions and fails to motivate these useless spinesss gutless wonders who steal a living.

  41. He’s right to call out the players. I hope they are at each other’s throats. It’s far too comfortable at Everton and players feeling why’re being hung out to dry by the manager is a lot better than the boys club mentality they’ve had for years.

  42. [QUOTE=”Frenchguy, post: 7306544, member: 50392″]
    I m not as concerned by the club as you guys, because in france we dont have that much informations about toffees. So i have a question : is it possible to have a arteta/cahill duo ? Or even arteta as a coach ? or this is not possible
    [/QUOTE]

    You could but why would you choose two former players with no mangement experience?

  43. What Silva says in relation to the second half against Sheffield United, it was his decision to go all out attack and leave us susceptible to the second goal which we eventually conceded. Players and manager both to blame but if Silva’s way of not hiding is to go gung ho with disregard to any tactical shape then that’s not going to achieve anything. You can’t play like that for half an hour, not against a half decent opposition. We haven’t played well once this season. Injuries to the midfield haven’t helped matters.

  44. I m not as concerned by the club as you guys, because in france we dont have that much informations about toffees. So i have a question : is it possible to have a arteta/cahill duo ? Or even arteta as a coach ? or this is not possible

  45. ” in some moments many players were hiding and didn’t give solutions”

    In fairness that’s a problem for a few years now, and Im not sure any other manager has called them out directly for this.

    could be wrong like, but I like its been said

  46. [QUOTE=”Yarrgh, post: 7306464, member: 10409″]
    Everyone needs to look at themselves here. From the fans in the stands to the players on the pitch and all the non-playing staff as well. If we don’t pull together and get going in the same direction together then we’re in trouble. Now the manager has a huge pivotal role in getting that kind of momentum going with the players. The fans will jump on board within a couple of great performances and committed displays and some fight. It’s all possible.

    Is he the man for the job? Last year, he had 2 bad patches, one with the zonal marking issues at the start of the season and the second with that stinking run after the 1st derby. He and the team pulled it around. I’m certain that he can turn it around given time, but another question is starting in my mind – can he avoid these bad patches in the first place?

    My apologies over comparing us to the rs, but Klopp the season before last, managed to get to a point were one bad game didn’t turn into a streak. Pochettino has done similar to a lesser degree at Spurs. Pep took over a team where this was the situation with the City squad. This is were I’d expect Silva to be getting to this season if he is going to be here for the long term. I am not overly concerned by the odd loss at the moment, but I’d expect us to bounce back and compete very hard in the next game to make amends and I don’t really get that impression I’m afraid.

    They may come out and perform well for a short time but then they seem to lose confidence. Is this the lack of bravery that Coleman mentions or the hiding that Silva mentions? If it is, that needs the likes of Silva, Boa Morte and Ferguson geeing up, cajoling, rousing the players as much as is needed to get the job done. I don’t see any great amounts of positive energy coming from that bench. [B]Can you imagine Alex Ferguson or Simeone or Mourinho or Guardiola or Klopp standing there with their arms folded if their teams went a goal down?[/B]
    [/QUOTE]

    In answer to that question – No.

  47. [QUOTE=”HowieT, post: 7306402, member: 54391″]
    I think its time to get David Moyes back saw him at the airport and he said he would return Kenwright must just give him a call. The recent managers have outlayed lots of cash on average player that dont have the commitment to the side. I was at Goodison the night we won the league and those guys would have died for the shirt they wore for most of these players its a very well paid job. Why cant we buy quality we have bought a few but with the money we have spent we should have a side that can compete in the top 6 at least
    [/QUOTE]
    You seen Everton win the league yet you want a manager back that got us no where near and is the least successful manager in our history for time spent at the club.
    He’s a poor manager, he’s failed everywhere he went after us.

    Stop living in the past, Moyes did an okay job for us nothing more

  48. I do find his demeanour beginning to grate on me. You can have whatever personality you like if you’re doing well but the reverse isn’t always the case.

    It is somewhat unfair in that like the rest of us, he probably can’t ever do much to change that and suddenly become more animated and angry as then it becomes forced.

    But I do think after generations of mediocrity the club needs a confident, forceful personality to lead it, whilst fully buying in to the need for us to progress and compete. The players need leadership on that front too.

    Moyes was marvellous in that aspect in his initial years but other than that the last person to have the force of personality we needed to match the circumstances was Big Joe.

  49. [QUOTE=”HowieT, post: 7306402, member: 54391″]
    I think its time to get David Moyes back saw him at the airport and he said he would return Kenwright must just give him a call. The recent managers have outlayed lots of cash on average player that dont have the commitment to the side. I was at Goodison the night we won the league and those guys would have died for the shirt they wore for most of these players its a very well paid job. Why cant we buy quality we have bought a few but with the money we have spent we should have a side that can compete in the top 6 at least
    [/QUOTE]
    Something fishy here

  50. Everyone needs to look at themselves here. From the fans in the stands to the players on the pitch and all the non-playing staff as well. If we don’t pull together and get going in the same direction together then we’re in trouble. Now the manager has a huge pivotal role in getting that kind of momentum going with the players. The fans will jump on board within a couple of great performances and committed displays and some fight. It’s all possible.

    Is he the man for the job? Last year, he had 2 bad patches, one with the zonal marking issues at the start of the season and the second with that stinking run after the 1st derby. He and the team pulled it around. I’m certain that he can turn it around given time, but another question is starting in my mind – can he avoid these bad patches in the first place?

    My apologies over comparing us to the rs, but Klopp the season before last, managed to get to a point were one bad game didn’t turn into a streak. Pochettino has done similar to a lesser degree at Spurs. Pep took over a team where this was the situation with the City squad. This is were I’d expect Silva to be getting to this season if he is going to be here for the long term. I am not overly concerned by the odd loss at the moment, but I’d expect us to bounce back and compete very hard in the next game to make amends and I don’t really get that impression I’m afraid.

    They may come out and perform well for a short time but then they seem to lose confidence. Is this the lack of bravery that Coleman mentions or the hiding that Silva mentions? If it is, that needs the likes of Silva, Boa Morte and Ferguson geeing up, cajoling, rousing the players as much as is needed to get the job done. I don’t see any great amounts of positive energy coming from that bench. Can you imagine Alex Ferguson or Simeone or Mourinho or Guardiola or Klopp standing there with their arms folded if their teams went a goal down?

  51. [QUOTE=”matty1878, post: 7306447, member: 2298″]
    How about with Gomes, and gbamin out he’s had to
    [/QUOTE]

    They are not our only midfielders who can play central. And he can also, and I know this might seem crazy, change the formation.

  52. [QUOTE=”Death, post: 7306407, member: 43971″]
    Once we find the person responsible for picking these players constantly he is in for it.
    [/QUOTE]

    How about with Gomes, and gbamin out he’s had to

  53. [QUOTE=”Death, post: 7306407, member: 43971″]
    Once we find the person responsible for picking these players constantly he is in for it.
    [/QUOTE]

    Agree with this, still picking Schneiderlin and Sigurdsson is absolutely on him.

  54. None of this is reflected in his demeanour or is specifically ventilated in his commentary to the media.

    We should be 6-7 points better off. We haven’t been convincing in any game this season and it’s a massive anticlimax from the ending to last term. Had we obtained an experienced ‘ready to go’ front man I think, given formations etc, we would still be struggling.

    He’s coming under pressure and the Sheff Wed game is now a massive for Marco.

  55. [QUOTE=”mikeh72, post: 7306386, member: 17469″]
    Is that a serious question? Sigurdsson has touched the ball a total of about 8 times in the opening 6 games. Our “captain” won’t say boo to a goose and we’re still playing Morgan Schneiderlin who pretty blatantly hides on the pitch and has done for the last two years.
    [/QUOTE]

    Once we find the person responsible for picking these players constantly he is in for it.

  56. [QUOTE=”mikeh72, post: 7306397, member: 17469″]
    He is, but he isn’t wrong when he points out our players are complete cowards.
    [/QUOTE]

    I would not say all the players.

  57. I think its time to get David Moyes back saw him at the airport and he said he would return Kenwright must just give him a call. The recent managers have outlayed lots of cash on average player that dont have the commitment to the side. I was at Goodison the night we won the league and those guys would have died for the shirt they wore for most of these players its a very well paid job. Why cant we buy quality we have bought a few but with the money we have spent we should have a side that can compete in the top 6 at least

  58. [QUOTE=”Toffeelover, post: 7306391, member: 17714″]
    Yes some players could show more but do you not think Marco is hiding as well?
    [/QUOTE]

    He is, but he isn’t wrong when he points out our players are complete cowards.

  59. [QUOTE=”mikeh72, post: 7306386, member: 17469″]
    Is that a serious question? Sigurdsson has touched the ball a total of about 8 times in the opening 6 games. Our “captain” won’t say boo to a goose and we’re still playing Morgan Schneiderlin who pretty blatantly hides on the pitch and has done for the last two years.
    [/QUOTE]

    Yes some players could show more but do you not think Marco is hiding as well?

  60. [QUOTE=”Toffeelover, post: 7306375, member: 17714″]
    [B]Who is actually hiding Marco?[/B]

    Typical any one bar himself is responsible for poor performances.
    [/QUOTE]

    Is that a serious question? Sigurdsson has touched the ball a total of about 8 times in the opening 6 games. Our “captain” won’t say boo to a goose and we’re still playing Morgan Schneiderlin who pretty blatantly hides on the pitch and has done for the last two years.

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