windymiller
Player Valuation: £50m
Yup, that was equally bad. It wasn't worse.
Would things drastically change if Benitez left tomorrow?
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Dario Terracotta
Player Valuation: £70m
It's a little like Newcastle currently, until we get to January we are screwed, it doesn't matter if we brought in Tuchel,Klopp,Guardiola or whoever, they won't get a tune out of this shower of dung, thats not to say Benitez has not made some awful tactical errors/subs etc.
Diogenes the Cynic
Player Valuation: £40m
He was being persecuted when he was winning games.
Now the defeats have just given a shield to the prejudice.
windymiller
Player Valuation: £50m
Being a koppite is not a protected characteristic, the idea that thinking that koppites are gob****** is equivalent to somebody being subjected to racism or antisemitism is laughable. I suppose people who think fans of Love Island are blerts are as bad as homophobes and people who think hipster moustaches are a bit silly are the equivalent of misogynists? Give your head a wobble.
Whether he is a RS or not is currently irrelevant in any case, we are playing dreadful football and have one win in seven matches and that was against Norwich.
He's a koppite and he's bad at his job, there shouldn't have been a place for him here in the first place and it's becoming clear his position is untenable to anyone who was of the absurd opinion that he could ever succeed here. This was always going to happen.
It's a bit of a loaded question. The answer is obviously no. But nothing can begin to improve until we get a new manager. So the longer we wait, the longer it takes until we can even try and get out of this mess.
There's lots of things in life that you can draw analogy to. If you make a change, then nothing ever happens drastically overnight or in the first two or 3 weeks. Say taking up exercise. But you have to start at some point if you are ever going to actually get the benefit of it. If you just say nothing will change after my first run or gym session, then you would never bother.
There's lots of things in life that you can draw analogy to. If you make a change, then nothing ever happens drastically overnight or in the first two or 3 weeks. Say taking up exercise. But you have to start at some point if you are ever going to actually get the benefit of it. If you just say nothing will change after my first run or gym session, then you would never bother.
Diogenes the Cynic
Player Valuation: £40m
Do you believe in rehabilitation?
windymiller
Player Valuation: £50m
I do, and I wish Benitez no personal ills, but this is not the place for his "rehabilitation". He was never going to be cut any slack at all from the fanbase, why should we cut him any slack? As @MikeH72 and others have said, this is a Moshiri problem. Benitez was a stupid appointment but why wouldn't Benitez take a seven (or eight if you believe some reports) figure salary on his doorstep? Worst case scenario, he gets millions of pounds in a payout after getting sacked. He was unemployed and his last job was in the Chinese league and he's in his 60s. Of course he was going to take the job. Moshiri should have never offered him the job. Poster after poster stated at the time that Benitez arrived that the first bad run of results would see Goodison turn toxic. Against Watford his subs were booed and the fans were calling for Rondon, an Everton player, to be sent off. At Wolves last night there were reports of Everton fans doing the FSW chants. Would any of this be happening after a quarter of the season with any other manager in charge? Of course not. Stupid appointment by a stupid owner.
There's no probably about it
charlie atkins
Player Valuation: £8m
If he was to go, all the assistants, coaches and backroom staff should go as well, cant always be the manager, and look at all the injuries we seem to get on the training field, I think the problem lies deeper than we see
Thetigerblue
Player Valuation: £5m
It really was. Really.
Diogenes the Cynic
Player Valuation: £40m
The fans are to blame if they can't give him the time or support they offer any other appointment.
If he doesn't succeed I'll happily boo him out but I'm not going to vilify someone who has been here 5 minutes and set up to fail with no budget to set up his own squad.
windymiller
Player Valuation: £50m
Nope, this is dreadful
The fans are to blame for the appointment of a deeply unpopular manager? That's a new one.
The only reason some are supporting the manager is they don't want to change again. It's hardly a positive argument. It's an argument based on fear of the future and a false sense of stability.
No one can honestly believe this will work out. There is zero evidence that will happen. The division at the club is horrible, and only a change can help that.
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