Dibling definitely showed promise last night. Barry, however, just looks poor. Have we bought the wrong player for the role or is he just no good? I think anyone who's seen them a few times knows that Iroebugnam and Alcaraz just aren't good enough, and McNeill looks a shadow of his former self and looks like he needs a move to freshen him up. Not sure how much we can do in January but given our thin squad of decent players and losing players to the African Cup of Nations we should definitely be focusing on getting some points on the board.….i think if you make a statement like that you need to say which youth players are capable of making the step-up and in what positions, accepting that Armstrong wasn’t available.
Have to say, I’m a little disappointed with both Barry and Dibling. I know both are young and both need to settle after big moves but neither have come cheap and I’d be wanting to see signs that we have invested in special talents. Jury is out, Dibling looks quality in possession but no signs of real attacking threat at this point from either.
Agree with pretty much all of this.My slightly more rational take, following a kip:
I’m fine with changes for cup games, I just think the team selection was wrong and imbalanced. I think Dibling needs ballers on the pitch with him, not coming on for him. Ultimately, big failure by Moyes but I WILL say that he made good, early subs to his credit.
I said it last night but it bears repeating: Don’t win against West Ham and this turns into a poor start to the season.
Well he has to, but he also has to show something, at the very least the desire to be on the pitchI'm not disagreement with your statement, but the has to play some minutes lad.
It was a ditty about taking ends on the terraces in the 70s.Music in the stadium right at kick off, what janky crap is that
Barry isn't a poor player, he's just a player not suited to the system Moyes wants him to play. Anyone who watched him more than once in Spain would have seen his hold up play is sketchy at best. Who knows who has the final word on transfers but this last window doesn't bode well for the future.Dibling definitely showed promise last night. Barry, however, just looks poor. Have we bought the wrong player for the role or is he just no good? I think anyone who's seen them a few times knows that Iroebugnam and Alcaraz just aren't good enough, and McNeill looks a shadow of his former self and looks like he needs a move to freshen him up. Not sure how much we can do in January but given our thin squad of decent players and losing players to the African Cup of Nations we should definitely be focusing on getting some points on the board.
My lad is only 8 and really into his football.Gutted this morning especially for my lad goes again last night desperate for us to go all out for a trophy.
I'm not saying we should sack him, and I believe in patience, but if there's a majority view that Moyes is the medium-term, and long-term, future of the first team, then that is a bit depressing. We all know his limits, his stubbornness, square pegs, dithering, etc. Equally we all know the positives of his percentages over a season, but I maintain that we should have better, maybe the end of his contract in 2027.Changing managers every five minutes got us in the hole we were previously in in the first place.
I think we need to regrow patience as fans.
Travers was absolutely woeful. If JP gets injured we may have to stick Garner in goal seeing as how well he's done in his other makeshift roles so far this season.Very poor. Surprised the keeper not getting at least some pelters. Be very worried if Pickfird gets injured. For what it's worth Garner, man of the match.
Don't invite Chelsea into the debate...Changing managers every five minutes got us in the hole we were previously in in the first place.
I think we need to regrow patience as fans.
This is not mediocre… losing to the worst team in the league…Entitled team selection. At some point we need to realise we need to put a strong squad out to win a trophy. Same old mediocre crap.
Subject to a couple of quality additions in January or a hell of a lot of luck, there's not a chance we're finishing ~8th. We must surely be the only team in the league to have just 2 strikers, and both of them are pretty poor. Unless all the other players make a big contribution, Beto & Barry aren't firing us that high up the league.Agree with pretty much all of this.
The team, once we have a regular left back available, and with Branthwaite back, should have enough to finish around 8th-10th.
We're obviously still missing a goal scorer, a right back and a replacement for Gana needs addressing in the summer before we can kick on and be a "good" side - but at the moment we still have enough quality in enough areas (and off the bench) to be beating at least half of the teams in the league.