Match Thread Wolves 2-0 Everton (Carabao Cup 3rd Round) 23rd September 19:45

Your Everton MOTM


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….i think if you make a statement like that you need to say which youth players are capable of making the step-up and in what positions, accepting that Armstrong wasn’t available.

Have to say, I’m a little disappointed with both Barry and Dibling. I know both are young and both need to settle after big moves but neither have come cheap and I’d be wanting to see signs that we have invested in special talents. Jury is out, Dibling looks quality in possession but no signs of real attacking threat at this point from either.
Dibling definitely showed promise last night. Barry, however, just looks poor. Have we bought the wrong player for the role or is he just no good? I think anyone who's seen them a few times knows that Iroebugnam and Alcaraz just aren't good enough, and McNeill looks a shadow of his former self and looks like he needs a move to freshen him up. Not sure how much we can do in January but given our thin squad of decent players and losing players to the African Cup of Nations we should definitely be focusing on getting some points on the board.
 
My slightly more rational take, following a kip:

I’m fine with changes for cup games, I just think the team selection was wrong and imbalanced. I think Dibling needs ballers on the pitch with him, not coming on for him. Ultimately, big failure by Moyes but I WILL say that he made good, early subs to his credit.

I said it last night but it bears repeating: Don’t win against West Ham and this turns into a poor start to the season.
Agree with pretty much all of this.

The team, once we have a regular left back available, and with Branthwaite back, should have enough to finish around 8th-10th.
We're obviously still missing a goal scorer, a right back and a replacement for Gana needs addressing in the summer before we can kick on and be a "good" side - but at the moment we still have enough quality in enough areas (and off the bench) to be beating at least half of the teams in the league.
 
I'm not disagreement with your statement, but the has to play some minutes lad.
Well he has to, but he also has to show something, at the very least the desire to be on the pitch :lol: He was incredibly unarsed, which isn't in character for him at all and a bit of a shame, but no team should have passengers like that.

Hopefully he picks it up, but this was just awful from him.
 

Dibling definitely showed promise last night. Barry, however, just looks poor. Have we bought the wrong player for the role or is he just no good? I think anyone who's seen them a few times knows that Iroebugnam and Alcaraz just aren't good enough, and McNeill looks a shadow of his former self and looks like he needs a move to freshen him up. Not sure how much we can do in January but given our thin squad of decent players and losing players to the African Cup of Nations we should definitely be focusing on getting some points on the board.
Barry isn't a poor player, he's just a player not suited to the system Moyes wants him to play. Anyone who watched him more than once in Spain would have seen his hold up play is sketchy at best. Who knows who has the final word on transfers but this last window doesn't bode well for the future.
 
Gutted this morning especially for my lad goes again last night desperate for us to go all out for a trophy.
My lad is only 8 and really into his football.

Asks me many times, 'dad, are we ever going to win anything?'

Always tell him that our time will come but it's nights like last night (which is not a knee jerk reaction, but something which is ingrained over my 40 years) that realize, maybe they won't.

Gutting and frustrating.
 
Changing managers every five minutes got us in the hole we were previously in in the first place.

I think we need to regrow patience as fans.
I'm not saying we should sack him, and I believe in patience, but if there's a majority view that Moyes is the medium-term, and long-term, future of the first team, then that is a bit depressing. We all know his limits, his stubbornness, square pegs, dithering, etc. Equally we all know the positives of his percentages over a season, but I maintain that we should have better, maybe the end of his contract in 2027.
 

Doesn't get any easier after a sleep. Won't be picking a MotM as quite simply it'd be an insult. Hopefully the first half players get beasted with back to back marathons today, something really punishing. Such a lack of effort and urgency. Destroy them Moyes, bury them.
 
Agree with pretty much all of this.

The team, once we have a regular left back available, and with Branthwaite back, should have enough to finish around 8th-10th.
We're obviously still missing a goal scorer, a right back and a replacement for Gana needs addressing in the summer before we can kick on and be a "good" side - but at the moment we still have enough quality in enough areas (and off the bench) to be beating at least half of the teams in the league.
Subject to a couple of quality additions in January or a hell of a lot of luck, there's not a chance we're finishing ~8th. We must surely be the only team in the league to have just 2 strikers, and both of them are pretty poor. Unless all the other players make a big contribution, Beto & Barry aren't firing us that high up the league.
 

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