Match Thread Wolves 2-0 Everton (Carabao Cup 3rd Round) 23rd September 19:45

[Igrok]

It turned out to be a bad decision by Moyes but let’s get something right, he wasn’t resting players, he was giving some other players a chance to stake a claim. There’s a difference.
I was quite pleased to see Dibling and Barry starting as was many other blues… until it started going wrong!!
And the likes of McNeil and Tim especially, didn’t do themselves any favours either.

Yea that was the move of a genius and he shat himself in public again…

 

[Eggs]

Doesn't get any easier after a sleep. Won't be picking a MotM as quite simply it'd be an insult. Hopefully the first half players get beasted with back to back marathons today, something really punishing. Such a lack of effort and urgency. Destroy them Moyes, bury them.

….although we dominated more after the changes, we didn’t particularly create chances after the big guns came on. Wolves were poor, we looked better in possession but we could still be playing now and not score.

Arguably the best moment was the run and pass from Alcaraz to Dibling where he then failed to go across the keeper or hit the target from a good position. Alcaraz so good in those transition situations but not offering a lot outwith them.

 

[blackie_jones75]

Like the bad old days waking up briefly having forgotten the score then remembering. So glad I did kids bedtime last night than watch that sh i te , we have serious problems at centre forward.

 

[COYBL25]

One big take from last nights match, is that yet again, we’re only a couple of injuries away to first choice players and we’re back to struggling again.

 

[Tipp blue]

We are a meme of a club, manager going on about winning a pot and then changes up the whole team and we witness a spectacularly dismal performance, Wolves have scored 8 goals in 7 games, half the goals are against us..

 

[Titus Shambles]

I'm not saying we should sack him, and I believe in patience, but if there's a majority view that Moyes is the medium-term, and long-term, future of the first team, then that is a bit depressing. We all know his limits, his stubbornness, square pegs, dithering, etc. Equally we all know the positives of his percentages over a season, but I maintain that we should have better, maybe the end of his contract in 2027.

Unless Moysie "does a West Ham" I doubt TFG are currently or ever did view him as the long-term future of the team. He was clearly the safe and logical choice to turn the clubs fortunes around in the immediacy and steady the ship in the first season at the new place at a club he knows inside out. Will he be the manager in 5+ years from now? Probably not, but TFG wont be in any rush to move things along until the club/team has be stabilized after years of turmoil.

 

[Titus Shambles]

We are a meme of a club, manager going on about winning a pot and then changes up the whole team and we witness a spectacularly dismal performance, Wolves have scored 8 goals in 7 games, half the goals are against us..

Ha! That is typical Everton right there.

 

[b-rad]

Subject to a couple of quality additions in January or a hell of a lot of luck, there's not a chance we're finishing ~8th. We must surely be the only team in the league to have just 2 strikers, and both of them are pretty poor. Unless all the other players make a big contribution, Beto & Barry aren't firing us that high up the league.

Since Moyes came in, we've picked up 38 points in 24 league games. That equates to roughly 60 over a season.

60 points would have been enough for 9th, 8th, 8th, 6th and 9th over the past 5 seasons. All with Beto (and a solitary Calvert Lewin goal) in that period.

Maybe we won't have that fell-good factor or Moyes coming in (and Dyche exiting) for the rest of this season, but we also have Grealish, KDH and Dibling who could all be real positives.

 

[Ring master]

One big take from last nights match, is that yet again, we’re only a couple of injuries away to first choice players and we’re back to struggling again.

Which we will find out when some of them disappear in December - to go with what other Injuries we may have at that point

 

[nick_waters]

Unless Moysie "does a West Ham" I doubt TFG are currently or ever did view him as the long-term future of the team. He was clearly the safe and logical choice to turn the clubs fortunes around in the immediacy and steady the ship in the first season at the new place at a club he knows inside out. Will he be the manager in 5+ years from now? Probably not, but TFG wont be in any rush to move things along until the club/team has be stabilized after years of turmoil.

What they did at Roma suggests that TFG won't be overly patient. In fact they may be aiming to sell the club on by 5 years time, in their mind the sale being that of a top 6-8 club competing in Europe. I doubt if anything less is their ambition, difficult though it may be, and meanwhile the whole footballing world knows Moyes' ceiling. Is it not almost certainly the case that his best achievements in the game are behind him, 4th in 2005 and the Conference Cup a couple of years ago?
If Moyes is to take us where TFG want us to be, he needs to change a few things, including starting games on the front foot, not playing players out of position, and not calling out the board and some of the players to cover his own back, and of course good recruitment (will be be trusted with a good budget year on year?) Maybe he'll personally be content with 10th-ish for the rest of his career with us, I don't know. For the fans, is that OK, what with new owners and a new stadium?

 

[Curtis]

Once again I noticed one of attackers on the wings drawing several of the wolves defenders out of position, instead of exploiting that development, no other attackers without the ball tries to make themselves available and then the man with the ball loses it after being swarmed. Need to rectify that issue

 

[Armaghtoffee]

Well that was a gutting performance. While I get the need to rotate the team, too many changes at once does no one any favours at all. Thats all the momentum lost from the start of the year and makes a win v West Ham crucial to get back on track.

 

[Titus Shambles]

Since Moyes came in, we've picked up 38 points in 24 league games. That equates to roughly 60 over a season.

60 points would have been enough for 9th, 8th, 8th, 6th and 9th over the past 5 seasons. All with Beto (and a solitary Calvert Lewin goal) in that period.

Maybe we won't have that fell-good factor or Moyes coming in (and Dyche exiting) for the rest of this season, but we also have Grealish, KDH and Dibling who could all be real positives.

Sure I get all that, but it also requires the other 19 teams in the league to be about the same over the average season, when in reality it doesn't often work out that way. We've certainly made some positive signings, no doubt, but as it stands I don't see enough goals or consistent quality to go past the usual suspects who typically finish in those kind of league places. Time will tell.

 

[Armaghtoffee]

I know it’s recency bias talking, but it’s about now I’m starting to worry that Brighton was pretty flukey, Wolves in the league was tighter than it should have been, and we lost to a horrendous Leeds, a gettable Liverpool and couldn’t find a way past a dog rough Villa.

Need West Ham to roll over for us before this turns really concerning.

The lack of even a bang average slotter has really hampered us already.

 

[Ed_Winchester]

The lack of even a bang average slotter has really hampered us already.

The result was depressing but all too predictable.
What is it with Everton and checking back on to their other foot? Lost count of the number of times that Ndiaye, Grealish and Dewsbury Hall check back on to their other foot last night.
Is it a deliberate tactic or is there just no movement in the box?

Probably answered my own question here