Pretty sure MLB still crushes soccer in both attendance and TV viewership in the US.I don't agree with that
Pretty sure MLB still crushes soccer in both attendance and TV viewership in the US.I don't agree with that
That may not be the case for long, as baseball seems to be wildly unpopular with millennials and younger, but for the time being I still think it’s got a considerable lead. For sure in terms of attendance and TV revenue. Not sure if I would feel differently if I lived in any sort of a city with an MLS or lower league soccer team.I don't agree with that
That may not be the case for long, as baseball seems to be wildly unpopular with millennials and younger, but for the time being I still think it’s got a considerable lead. For sure in terms of attendance and TV revenue. Not sure if I would feel differently if I lived in any sort of a city with an MLS or lower league soccer team.
I think by the numbers on TV ratings and stuff like that it is, although whether that is true in even as few as 5 years is certainly with questioning.I don't agree with that
I don’t think the slow pace of the game is even the biggest factor. A huge driving force in creating new generations of fans is having them play the game as a kid. The sad reality is that at this point, baseball has effectively become a country club sport where only the most affluent kids with parents who have both the cash and the time to let them play travel ball in far off cities every weekend have access to. There is an element of that once you reach a certain age with soccer as well, but at the very least the outlay for equipment is considerably less. I know parents here who have literally spent HUNDREDS of dollars on a single baseball bat for an 8 year old, which is absurd.Yep, it wont be long now I think. Even though it's America's past time, like you said, the younger generation are starting to pick soccer/lacrosse over baseball due to the guaranteed continual action of them (over sometimes standing in the outfield for much off a game without seeing the ball). Dads though are probably still playing catch with the mitt first with their sons in their early years before kicking a ball. However, as this new generation filters through and presuming the MLS keeps up it steady momentum, then things could change soon, and quickly you'd have to think. .![]()
The old fashioned baseball where everyone played all the time growing up is far far in the past. Soccer is certainly filling that void along with playground basketball.I don’t think the slow pace of the game is even the biggest factor. A huge driving force in creating new generations of fans is having them play the game as a kid. The sad reality is that at this point, baseball has effectively become a country club sport where only the most affluent kids with parents who have both the cash and the time to let them play travel ball in far off cities every weekend have access to. There is an element of that once you reach a certain age with soccer as well, but at the very least the outlay for equipment is considerably less. I know parents here who have literally spent HUNDREDS of dollars on a single baseball bat for an 8 year old, which is absurd.
I assume we are talking men, because we have many world class women players.
As to men, we don't have a system that makes them hungry for success; we have universities that provide degrees and also host college teams that play a horrifically poor, physical type of soccer that is cringey to watch. It's a middle class sport and there is no pressure to succeed; if it doesn't work out you can always fall back on your college degree and get a good job. Few USA professional/national team players play in Europe because of family issues or lack of desire--they have options. Jordan Morris decided to play for Seattle when he could have played overseas, same goes of other players. Adam Christman played on the LA Galaxy with Beckham--he had a second concussion and stopped playing and joined the Physician Assistant program at my Uni (imagine one year he was playing with Beckham, the next year he was on a recreational team playing with me and friends...LOL); he had no problem re-integrating into society after playing professionally. For most kids in many countries, professional soccer is the way out of a bad lifeway whereas in the USA it is mostly just a temporary lifestyle until you do something else.
No such thing as a world class woman footballer mate.
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Middle class is generous. Club soccer is beyond expensive and is one of the most ridiculous parts of the whole thing.I assume we are talking men, because we have many world class women players.
As to men, we don't have a system that makes them hungry for success; we have universities that provide degrees and also host college teams that play a horrifically poor, physical type of soccer that is cringey to watch. It's a middle class sport and there is no pressure to succeed; if it doesn't work out you can always fall back on your college degree and get a good job. Few USA professional/national team players play in Europe because of family issues or lack of desire--they have options. Jordan Morris decided to play for Seattle when he could have played overseas, same goes of other players. Adam Christman played on the LA Galaxy with Beckham--he had a second concussion and stopped playing and joined the Physician Assistant program at my Uni (imagine one year he was playing with Beckham, the next year he was on a recreational team playing with me and friends...LOL); he had no problem re-integrating into society after playing professionally. For most kids in many countries, professional soccer is the way out of a bad lifeway whereas in the USA it is mostly just a temporary lifestyle until you do something else.
The travel and how expensive it is are the two biggest hindrances with it.Middle class is generous. Club soccer is beyond expensive and is one of the most ridiculous parts of the whole thing.
No college player will ever be world class.
No such thing as a world class woman footballer mate.
I think the real reason is that from an early age American kids, especially boys, are taught to pick the ball up with their hands and run with it, knocking anyone over who gets in their way. They see grown men wearing gladiatorial armor doing this on TV all the time. Said gladiators get paid handsomely and are treated like heroic celebrities.
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