Who let Everton/Koeman down?

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Honestly think the squad we have now is good enough to be sitting between 4-6 come January if we avoid key injuries to Rom, Barry, Gueye, and Ross. From there, hopefully we can get a couple deals with players contracts running down and strengthen enough to finish the season on a high note. Our first 11 has improved greatly over last year despite not bringing in a "big name." The fact that we seemingly can't get any deals accross the line is worrying, and it signals that we may need a new approach to negotiations, but our window was still a success in my eyes. We were never going to move mountains after finishing 11th back to back seasons. Cheers for that one Bob.

Now if only this pesky international break would be over, I could get excited again.
 
We've aimed high in this window, perhaps higher than we've ever aimed before. Certainly in my lifetime of the Premier League era.

We're also a mid-table club, to a lot of players out there, with no Champions League on offer either. How do we make ourselves more attractive?

Throwing money at them hasn't appeared to work. Ghezzal was supposedly made a "very high offer" and still turned us down. He could have been persuaded of course, as with Witsel, but there are limits to what we can offer and so there should be. We're much more comfortable now, but we're not in the financial big league. Kone was keen to jump ship, but Sunderland wouldn't play ball. How much more cash do we throw at Sunderland?

Our targets have eluded us. No doubt there was a list. There's an off limits room at Finch Farm devoted to player scouting with endless analysis (for the good it's done us ;) ) but we won't know how big the list was. Was Bolasie top of the pile? That doesn't bare thinking about! Sissoko hopefully wasn't top of the midfielder list, because that would stink of ineptitude, moving for a big target on the last day.

A culmination of a terrible, over-priced, ultra-competitive market, a club that isn't as attractive as we hoped to appear, a relatively short-time frame for Koeman and Walsh to work together looking at the squad and then sizing up replacements and a naivety from the board by being strung along in some transfer shenanigans where the outcome was never going to be beneficial to Everton.

Next summer will be different.
Why could we not loan our deadwood out then?
Is our squad that bad?
 
Why could we not loan our deadwood out then?
Is our squad that bad?

Aside from McGeady and Niasse, who apparently turned down a number of loan moves away (I said a while ago his wife will cause problems :D ) I'd be surprised if we tried to loan out anyone else? With Besic done for a while, Gibson would probably be needed for cover. Kone wasn't going anywhere, at least until the last minute with only Lukaku up front.
 
We clearly had the money to spend and were ready to part with it. IMHO, I think the late appointment of both Koeman and Walsh impacted on the ability to do deals quickly. We also had unrealistic targets who were using our interest to negotiate other moves. There is no shame in having that ambition, but we should have identified some suitable fall back options.
 
Aside from McGeady and Niasse, who apparently turned down a number of loan moves away (I said a while ago his wife will cause problems :D ) I'd be surprised if we tried to loan out anyone else? With Besic done for a while, Gibson would probably be needed for cover. Kone wasn't going anywhere, at least until the last minute with only Lukaku up front.
We seemed to loan out good young players let's hope they development will be a bonus in the future!
 
We seemed to loan out good young players let's hope they development will be a bonus in the future!

I'm delighted we never signed Sissoko, means Tom Davies can step up now if we're stuck! I suppose you have to find a balance between developing youth and maintaining a strong team. I wouldn't want that job!
 
It has to be the man at the top whoever they are all pointing fingers at today the press release was embarrassing!


yes, the man at the top, moshiri, isnt new to all this either, some talk as if he's just walked into a football club for the first time, letting bill hold key negotiations as he isnt familiar with it all. this is to the contuary, moshiri has been involved at board level with Arsenal for many years, and from that experience i would assume he knows full well how to conduct transfer business.
 
I'm delighted we never signed Sissoko, means Tom Davies can step up now if we're stuck! I suppose you have to find a balance between developing youth and maintaining a strong team. I wouldn't want that job!
Let's face it Sissoko was about our 4th choice let's see if our strong start can gather pace we have not been brilliant as yet but look stronger under Koeman so far;)
 
From the front page: https://www.grandoldteam.com/2016/0...ads-failed-delivery-evertons-transfer-window/

The over-riding feeling of this transfer window is frustration that we’ve again failed to take full advantage of an opportunity presented to us given our new major shareholder, new manager and Director of Football. It’s clear our recruitment process failed us and as a result we will find it more difficult to advance at the pace we the fans, and I’m sure Moshiri and Koeman had hoped.

I want to give some thought as to why the window has turned out the way it has.

Anyone who has successfully sold products or services, or anyone who has successfully recruited people at the highest levels knows that the most difficult part of the task is usually getting the initial interest. It’s getting that first communication compelling enough to engage the customer or target. That’s why companies spend billions each year on promoting their brand, so that when the opportunity comes along to present the brand to a customer or target there’s as high an engagement rate as possible. Why? Because once you have the engagement, assuming your product or proposition makes sense the rest in my experience is, on a relative basis, much easier.

Now what’s the above got to do with Everton?

We operate in a highly competitive environment and we’re clearly not a premium brand in our own right in the modern game. There are plenty of positives of course, our Premier League status, our fan base, our manager and some of our previous recruitment successes with our players and current squad. There are also negatives – we’re not consistently in Europe, we’ve not won a trophy in 21 years, and we’re some way off being able to guarantee levels of performance and success that attract the very best players.

In examining what we achieved in the transfer window, it seems to me at least that we got the initial pitch correct. We were able to engage our targets and their agents early on in the process of them becoming potential Everton players. The range of players we were linked with suggests that getting through the door to speak to a Witsel, Mata, Carvalho, Brahimi etc was not overly problematic.

The real issue was how and why none of these prospects and several later in the window, even though of lower stature in the game, could not be closed and become Everton players?

For some it was money – Witsel for example where ultimately we pulled out, others Carvalho as an example, listened to the pitch but was not convinced. However many, particularly later on in the window got down to final negotiations, and this is where the problem seems to lie, particularly with overseas players – ultimately we did not have the skills and experience to see the deals across the line.

So what’s to be done about it? Moshiri and Ryazantsev proved their abilities in attracting talent by bringing Koeman and Walsh to the club, and certainly in keeping Lukaku at the club through their meetings with Raiola. Kenwright and Elstone, well what can be said?

Something very badly went wrong in terms of preparation, negotiations and ability to close. I doubt Moshiri with all his experience will allow a similar situation in January. Was he wrong to entrust this element of the task to his Chairman and CEO as the window progressed? Where Moshiri went wrong was in my opinion, not remaining fully briefed on the progress, or lack of, and any issues that were arising. Perhaps towards the end of the window he became more aware of this, particularly with his comment on the state of the transfer window. However the truth is outside of Kenwright and Elstone he had few alternatives to turn to inside the club or board.

Where does it leave us? In organisational terms we need to be able to execute deals efficiently, and in a timely manner with a proper process. I’m not concerned about identification of targets, Walsh and Koeman are perfectly adept at this, Walsh in particular, nor about our initial approach. I am concerned though at Board level we do not have the right people to see us meet our objectives and that’s where the change has to come – something that won’t be lost on Moshiri.

There was considerable talk early in the summer about the prospects of David Dein being introduced into the club. Additionally the BP CFO, Dr Brian Gilvary has been heavily associated with a non-executive position on the board. Neither of these have come to fruition yet, perhaps the timing will coincide with the next phase of Moshiri’s acquisition when he exercises his options agreement with Kenwright, Woods and Abercrombie. I can only hope so.

I’ve read the local media talking about the successes of the window, adopting a balanced approach that we’ve done OK because we’re stronger now than we were at the end of last season. Well frankly that’s not good enough. We have to judge the window on the opportunity that was presented to us and how we failed to take anything like full advantage of that. Had we done so, especially given the start to the season on the pitch, we would have been in a great position to move forward. Sadly we haven’t, and again we’ve allowed our competitors to strengthen at a greater pace than we ourselves have done.

You can’t catch up if you’re still running slower than your completion, and because of the organisational and personnel issues in this window that’s exactly what has happened. We need a football man experienced at the very highest levels of the game in the Chair to run negotiations and a truly world class CEO to execute the deals as they are agreed. Sadly we had neither, and for a while at least our progress on the pitch will be much more difficult because of it.
 
Let's not forget that a few players were using us as leverage for new contracts or to force other clubs hands. The transfer window as a whole was fine but obviously TDD was a farce.
 
Seems like having Kenwright and Elstone is very valuable to Moshiri, because people will bend over backwards to absolve him of responsibility at their expense.
 
From the front page: https://www.grandoldteam.com/2016/0...ads-failed-delivery-evertons-transfer-window/

The over-riding feeling of this transfer window is frustration that we’ve again failed to take full advantage of an opportunity presented to us given our new major shareholder, new manager and Director of Football. It’s clear our recruitment process failed us and as a result we will find it more difficult to advance at the pace we the fans, and I’m sure Moshiri and Koeman had hoped.

I want to give some thought as to why the window has turned out the way it has.

Anyone who has successfully sold products or services, or anyone who has successfully recruited people at the highest levels knows that the most difficult part of the task is usually getting the initial interest. It’s getting that first communication compelling enough to engage the customer or target. That’s why companies spend billions each year on promoting their brand, so that when the opportunity comes along to present the brand to a customer or target there’s as high an engagement rate as possible. Why? Because once you have the engagement, assuming your product or proposition makes sense the rest in my experience is, on a relative basis, much easier.

Now what’s the above got to do with Everton?

We operate in a highly competitive environment and we’re clearly not a premium brand in our own right in the modern game. There are plenty of positives of course, our Premier League status, our fan base, our manager and some of our previous recruitment successes with our players and current squad. There are also negatives – we’re not consistently in Europe, we’ve not won a trophy in 21 years, and we’re some way off being able to guarantee levels of performance and success that attract the very best players.

In examining what we achieved in the transfer window, it seems to me at least that we got the initial pitch correct. We were able to engage our targets and their agents early on in the process of them becoming potential Everton players. The range of players we were linked with suggests that getting through the door to speak to a Witsel, Mata, Carvalho, Brahimi etc was not overly problematic.

The real issue was how and why none of these prospects and several later in the window, even though of lower stature in the game, could not be closed and become Everton players?

For some it was money – Witsel for example where ultimately we pulled out, others Carvalho as an example, listened to the pitch but was not convinced. However many, particularly later on in the window got down to final negotiations, and this is where the problem seems to lie, particularly with overseas players – ultimately we did not have the skills and experience to see the deals across the line.

So what’s to be done about it? Moshiri and Ryazantsev proved their abilities in attracting talent by bringing Koeman and Walsh to the club, and certainly in keeping Lukaku at the club through their meetings with Raiola. Kenwright and Elstone, well what can be said?

Something very badly went wrong in terms of preparation, negotiations and ability to close. I doubt Moshiri with all his experience will allow a similar situation in January. Was he wrong to entrust this element of the task to his Chairman and CEO as the window progressed? Where Moshiri went wrong was in my opinion, not remaining fully briefed on the progress, or lack of, and any issues that were arising. Perhaps towards the end of the window he became more aware of this, particularly with his comment on the state of the transfer window. However the truth is outside of Kenwright and Elstone he had few alternatives to turn to inside the club or board.

Where does it leave us? In organisational terms we need to be able to execute deals efficiently, and in a timely manner with a proper process. I’m not concerned about identification of targets, Walsh and Koeman are perfectly adept at this, Walsh in particular, nor about our initial approach. I am concerned though at Board level we do not have the right people to see us meet our objectives and that’s where the change has to come – something that won’t be lost on Moshiri.

There was considerable talk early in the summer about the prospects of David Dein being introduced into the club. Additionally the BP CFO, Dr Brian Gilvary has been heavily associated with a non-executive position on the board. Neither of these have come to fruition yet, perhaps the timing will coincide with the next phase of Moshiri’s acquisition when he exercises his options agreement with Kenwright, Woods and Abercrombie. I can only hope so.

I’ve read the local media talking about the successes of the window, adopting a balanced approach that we’ve done OK because we’re stronger now than we were at the end of last season. Well frankly that’s not good enough. We have to judge the window on the opportunity that was presented to us and how we failed to take anything like full advantage of that. Had we done so, especially given the start to the season on the pitch, we would have been in a great position to move forward. Sadly we haven’t, and again we’ve allowed our competitors to strengthen at a greater pace than we ourselves have done.

You can’t catch up if you’re still running slower than your completion, and because of the organisational and personnel issues in this window that’s exactly what has happened. We need a football man experienced at the very highest levels of the game in the Chair to run negotiations and a truly world class CEO to execute the deals as they are agreed. Sadly we had neither, and for a while at least our progress on the pitch will be much more difficult because of it.

Drop me a few names of class CEO's for me to look at, I've heard of David Dein to the point were Arsenal and Arsene have not operated to the same level of success since Dein's resignation. Does a business man as CEO work or do we need someone from within the game to act as CEO ? Just curious as to whether the term 'football man' matters or not ?
 
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