When you saw the fixture list....

Where are we compared to where you thought we'd be after these opening 4 games?

  • Above where I thought

    Votes: 10 6.0%
  • Below where I thought

    Votes: 46 27.5%
  • Exactly where I thought

    Votes: 111 66.5%

  • Total voters
    167
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Exactly the same but with the City and Tottenham results reversed. I have us losing on the weekend too. I had a feeling we would get ran over and I'm glad we can get most of it out of the way to be honest. The performances have been far worse than I'd have hoped for though. No fight or imagination, we look clueless every week at the moment and it has to improve.
 
Exactly where I thought.

Expected us to beat Stoke, and then get 1 or 2 draws. At best I could probably see 7 points. A win against Stoke, 1 draw and possibly beat Spurs with it being a home game.

As a club we should just forfeit the Chelsea and Man United games every season because the mentality our players have, and have had since the Premier League era began, has been nothing short of a disgrace and an embarrassment. You've got Burnley going to Stamford Bridge and getting a 3-2 win there, Swansea did the same at Anfield last season and yet season after season we turn up at those grounds and we quite literally do not stand a chance.

We can be playing against 10 men for over 45 minutes, we can be leading in to the 98th minute, and Everton Football Club will simply not get a victory at Anfield, Stamford Bridge or the Emirates and barring the Oviedo winner, Old Trafford too. And our winless record at Spurs and Man City increases year on year too.

For me, the season starts after next week when we have that defeat out of the way.

Although I agree with your point about smaller clubs getting beat at the bigger clubs stadiums. Do you not think it has something to do with the the bigger clubs bringing their best game when they play us because they see us as more of a threat than burnley for example. And when they play the smaller teams they can get a bit profligate. I think that's one of the main reasons we fail to win these games.
 
Koeman has been here 15 months

Spent 150 odd million this summer alone

Yet doesnt know his best formation
His best tactics
Or even who his best players are

That is quite simply astonishing

Fully agree, only other point is that he stuck the #9 upside down on the back of his subbuteo player in the tactics room and has spent all this season having two #6's and no #9...
 

Can't see us getting anything at old Trafford.

Nope but after that we'll be behind where I thought we'd be. I thought we'd get a point against Spurs, but until the fifth game I can't say we're behind yet.

Performance wise I had hopes for better than this, but as soon as we had yet another abortion of a summer transfer window because of a fraud owner and didn't bring in the striker, I lost all hope. I expected a strong 7th, possibly pushing 6th this season - now I think it's about looking over our shoulder and staying in the top eight.
 

the fixture list at the beginning of the season didn't do us any favors. that being said I don't think it was too much to ask for a shot or 2 on goal.
 
Nope but after that we'll be behind where I thought we'd be. I thought we'd get a point against Spurs, but until the fifth game I can't say we're behind yet.

Performance wise I had hopes for better than this, but as soon as we had yet another abortion of a summer transfer window because of a fraud owner and didn't bring in the striker, I lost all hope. I expected a strong 7th, possibly pushing 6th this season - now I think it's about looking over our shoulder and staying in the top eight.

I would've taken W-D-L-D and then another draw.
I thought Arsenal were more than vulnerable but, as you say, at least stay thereabouts.
 
I would've taken W-D-L-D and then another draw.
I thought Arsenal were more than vulnerable but, as you say, at least stay thereabouts.

The only comfort right now is that there's only been three runaways at the top. Despite how bad we've been, we're only three points off fifth.

In many ways our next three games are irrelevant. We should be turning out the reserves against Sunderland, or even the youth team - the biggest game of the season, by far, is Bournemouth now.
 
The only comfort right now is that there's only been three runaways at the top. Despite how bad we've been, we're only three points off fifth.

In many ways our next three games are irrelevant. We should be turning out the reserves against Sunderland, or even the youth team - the biggest game of the season, by far, is Bournemouth now.

It's a juggling act, Atalanta and then Man U followed by Sunderland.
Imagine the fume if we did that and lost though!
 
It's a juggling act, Atalanta and then Man U followed by Sunderland.
Imagine the fume if we did that and lost though!

Just be forthright with the fans. It's a meaningless competition due to us being in Europe. We don't have the squad for it - we don't even have a legitimate striker.

Keep them fresh for important games. We have no pace or balance - so we have to try and make that up with energy and technique through a long season. Don't make it longer than it has to be.

If the fans see a reserve or youth team named, they'll know the score.
 

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