When you saw the fixture list....

Where are we compared to where you thought we'd be after these opening 4 games?

  • Above where I thought

    Votes: 10 6.0%

  • Below where I thought

    Votes: 46 27.5%

  • Exactly where I thought

    Votes: 111 66.5%
  • Total voters
    167
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Like people said results wise not the worst but definitely around the very minimum expected. Performance wise far far worse than expected. It's extremely difficult to see everton finish top 7 at this point let alone challenge top 4.

In the two seasons Martinez finished 11th twice I thought we played some great football those seasons but just looked tactically inept. On the evidence so far this season is going to be far far worse in both league position and performance.
I remember on our bad run before home to arsenal last season the general consensus was that the football was poor and the results were poor. This season could be much more of that but for the foreseeable future.

As everton fans this season is going to be a lot of low scoring games, poor football. Frustration trying to break teams down.

This team will do well to finish top half

I think this is quite possibly the least optimistic Ive felt about everton for many a season and it should be the most.
 
Just thinking about our performances this season the only good half of football we've had was the first half against hadjuk at home. So that needs to be the team playing but with holgate at right back
 


ToffeeTim said:
I expected 5 from opening 5 but hoped for 7. We need something on Sunday. Would change things significantly.
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Very unlikely, considering the form of both teams. Chelsea away was maybe excusable due to 3 away games in 6 days, however saturdays performance was inexcusable. Shocking display, with no fight or passion. You can legislate for new players 'finding their feet' but the lack of fight was sickening to watch.
 
rochdaleblue said:
Very unlikely, considering the form of both teams. Chelsea away was maybe excusable due to 3 away games in 6 days, however saturdays performance was inexcusable. Shocking display, with no fight or passion. You can legislate for new players 'finding their feet' but the lack of fight was sickening to watch.
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Any home game we don't win is dropped points. To lose 3 nil in that manner cant be repeated.
 
I said Stoke was a must win because we'd be lucky to get another point out the next 4. In Moyes terms we're doing better than expected
 
Exactly where I thought.

Expected us to beat Stoke, and then get 1 or 2 draws. At best I could probably see 7 points. A win against Stoke, 1 draw and possibly beat Spurs with it being a home game.

As a club we should just forfeit the Chelsea and Man United games every season because the mentality our players have, and have had since the Premier League era began, has been nothing short of a disgrace and an embarrassment. You've got Burnley going to Stamford Bridge and getting a 3-2 win there, Swansea did the same at Anfield last season and yet season after season we turn up at those grounds and we quite literally do not stand a chance.

We can be playing against 10 men for over 45 minutes, we can be leading in to the 98th minute, and Everton Football Club will simply not get a victory at Anfield, Stamford Bridge or the Emirates and barring the Oviedo winner, Old Trafford too. And our winless record at Spurs and Man City increases year on year too.

For me, the season starts after next week when we have that defeat out of the way.
 

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