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What's the plan mein frandels?
 
all these stats etc showing our passes etc, we've played Chelsea and city away in 3 games, were never going to pass the ball around these teams, be worth having a look in a few months when a few more games have been played

for the record though, our style does bore me to death most of the time ( away from home is pitful and spineless as well )
 
Pickford

Martina Keane Jagielka Baines

Schneiderlin Gueye

Lookman Klassan Sigurdsson

Sandro
My team for Spurs. I think Klassan and Sig sliding balls through to Sandro is the right approach. DCL wont get a sniff against their back 4, but Sandro and Lookman's pace should cause them problems.

Plan B - throw DCL up front in place of Lookman, move Sandro wide (if drawing) & as a 2 up front (if losing)

We will need 2 holding midfielders to combat Alli and Eriksen etc.

Outlook: Grim
 
all these stats etc showing our passes etc, we've played Chelsea and city away in 3 games, were never going to pass the ball around these teams, be worth having a look in a few months when a few more games have been played

for the record though, our style does bore me to death most of the time ( away from home is pitful and spineless as well )


Yes, this is the thing.

We have indeed played the two best teams away.....but the games away at Swansea, Saints and Stoke among others last season were pretty much the same and I cannot see us being any more adventurous at the "lesser" teams this season.
 
Pickford

Martina Keane Jagielka Baines

Schneiderlin Gueye

Lookman Klassan Sigurdsson

Sandro
My team for Spurs. I think Klassan and Sig sliding balls through to Sandro is the right approach. DCL wont get a sniff against their back 4, but Sandro and Lookman's pace should cause them problems.

Plan B - throw DCL up front in place of Lookman, move Sandro wide (if drawing) & as a 2 up front (if losing)

We will need 2 holding midfielders to combat Alli and Eriksen etc.

Outlook: Grim
Holgate will play instead of CuCu!
DCL will lead the line !
 
Pickford

Martina Keane Jagielka Baines

Schneiderlin Gueye

Lookman Klassan Sigurdsson

Sandro
My team for Spurs. I think Klassan and Sig sliding balls through to Sandro is the right approach. DCL wont get a sniff against their back 4, but Sandro and Lookman's pace should cause them problems.

Plan B - throw DCL up front in place of Lookman, move Sandro wide (if drawing) & as a 2 up front (if losing)

We will need 2 holding midfielders to combat Alli and Eriksen etc.

Outlook: Grim


Has Rooney already been ruled out of this one?
 
Hello mein frandels

I will try and keep this short (rather than the excellent prose written by @catcherintherye and others) because any more than 500 words and I'll be running out of letters.

Now the transfer window has closed and we are a season into the Ronald Trump / Steve Walsh Revolution, what do you think the intended plan or style of play is for this version of the mighty Blues?

The last senior game before Koeman joined, we lined up like this

Howard
Pennington (Kenny)
Stones
Jagielka
Baines
McCarthy (Lennon)
Barry
Dowell (Barkley)
Davies
Mirallas
Lukaku

Broadly speaking (and not including the general mayhem of the Martinez final two seasons) the club played a certain way - even at junior level. 4 at the back, a strong base in midfield, a player roaming behind the striker(s) and either wingers and one striker, or one defensive midfielder two strikers two wingers (the latter more common in Unsworth's sides than with Martinez). The general idea was to get the ball to the man behind the strikers (Barkley at senior level, Dowell at junior) would in theory either play in the striker or play it wide for a cross. The six at the back (defenders / midfielders) would provide the strong base (again, worked well first season, theory fell apart entirely in the second).

Go forward to 11th March 2017. Koeman had been here a while, Walsh had had two windows to work in, and we win 3-0 at home against West Brom, who at that point were one position behind us in the league.

Robles
Coleman
Jagielka
Williams
Baines (Funes Mori)
Schneiderlin
Barry (DCL)
Barkley
Davies
Mirallas (Gueye)
Lukaku

Again, the manager's ideas and intended style of play was pretty obvious here. Solid defensive platform and control the game. Get a goal and shut down the game, knowing that your centre forward was always likely to score a half chance to put you two (or in this case three) up and kill the game entirely. You couldn't rely on Lukaku to keep the ball for you in the final third but that didn't really matter as you could strangle the life out midfield and the defensive third with two of three from Barry, Schneiderlin and Gueye. The side had goals in it (hence the many different scorers) so again, it wasn't critical to get it to Lukaku immediately - he'd likely score at some point anyway.

Let's go to this season and the recent defeat at Chelsea, following a disjointed (rather than unsuccessful) start to the season.


Pickford
Keane
Williams
Jagielka (Lennon)
Holgate
Davies (Besic)
Gueye
Baines
Rooney
Sigurdsson
Ramírez (DCL)


Broadly speaking that lineup has most of what you would say are the 'better' Everton players in it (minus the injured Klaassen, Bolasie, Coleman etc and the suspended Schneiderlin). You can see where the injured players would naturally sub in here (apart from Bolasie).

What is the intended style of play here? What plan have the signings been brought into to implement or improve upon?

You're not going to see pacey full back play from Baines / Holgate, who in theory are released more from their defensive duties because of the three centre backs.

Perhaps you've got more control in the final third than when we had Lukaku, but you've also got a very congested area for these players to work in (usually not a positive) and on current evidence unlikely to have a player who will score you 1 goal every 2 games, sometimes out of very little.

Unlike nearly every successful top tier club in the world this season (or in recent seasons) you've got no change of pace, very little explosive movement, and not much in the way of 10+ goals from midfield type players.

With the possible exception of Pickford and Keane, you've got little quality distribution from the back, (not 'the goalkeeper', just Pickford, as if Robles or Stek subs in you lose possibility this instantly). I include the full backs here.

My general argument here is that there doesn't seem to be much joined up thinking at the moment, no identifiable style of play, nor the recruitment to actualise it. Both Koeman and Walsh came from sides where they had implemented a playing style; Koeman a hold-up striker with pacy support [Pelle / Mane], Walsh had a deep-lying midfielder (Drinkwater) spraying long passes to pacy wingers (Mahrez) and a pacy, in-form striker (Vardy) who would be assisted in the dirty work by an industrious support striker (often Okazaki). Currently, I can't see what we are trying to achieve.

Some might say and who's to say they are totally wrong, that Moshiri's plan is to make money via the new ground and the sell on potential and that Koeman's plan is to keep taking the 6M for as long as it's on offer.
On the field Koeman had/has his own plan(?)...but it seemed to all hinge on the Targetman, which we failed to acquire.
And then there's the Goalscorer we failed to replace. The surfeit of similar-ish Mid Fielders. The lack of Left sided defensive cover.

Anyway; all is not lost, Koeman's a (supposed) top level coach. He knew the guidelines (aka restrictions) he had to work under.

Trouble is I've never bought in to this whole 'Number 10' mystique thing... and the fact that he has to have a 'specialist target-man' to play it to.

So we haven't got either...think back - We never have had a 'Number 10', we had decent MF players Collins, Vernon & Young who were neither 9 nor 10 despite the numbers on their back.
We had the Holy trinity. Dobson. Sheedy Reid Bracewell Steven; Beardsley.
We have 8's, 8.5's, 9.5's...but no actual 10 or 9.
Just find your best 11 Ron - If you can...and Play them.
 
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My team for Spurs. I think Klassan and Sig sliding balls through to Sandro is the right approach. DCL wont get a sniff against their back 4, but Sandro and Lookman's pace should cause them problems.

Outlook: Grim

Then we are in trouble as neither Klaassen nor Sigurdsson can play that role. Both are players who barely touch the ball but get themselves into good positions. Our playmaker normally ends up being Gueye which isn't his strength.
 
From what I've seen, Koeman wants the team to defend first (not surprising given his background). He likes a high intensity, pressing style of defense. Maybe not to the point of say Poch at Spurs, but he doesn't want the forwards to sit back either. He has this pretty well sorted IMO given the personnel.

From an attacking standpoint, I think that Koeman wants the players to employ a fast, one touch passing style with movement. He wants us to be able to open up defenses by quick interchanges. I base this solely on his post match comments vs. my observations. This is the part that isn't coming off yet. I think that last year he didn't feel he had the right players to employ it fully and Barkley's indecision on the ball was a huge issue for him. It also speaks to why he has concentrated on filling the mid-field this year. It takes chemistry to play effectively in this manner and hopefully once all the new faces get familarized with each other we'll go from an average of 546 touches between passes to 1-2, and our movement will improve. Koeman's "intensity" to me is movement and the fact that often our players stroll off the ball causes our attacks to slow down.

There are two ways to employ his attacking style, highly regimented (e.g. AVB) or more laissez-faire, relying on the players' natural instincts. It's my impression that Koeman prefers the latter, which means that if the players don't gel and/or aren't tactically smart enough, we could be in for a long boring season.
 
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...Koeman is a professional, efficient, tunnel visioned student of football, with a tendency to over intellectualise the whole caboogle, and as long as he remembers that football is really a simple game with a simple object, we will be OK.

In a Nutshell here...but it won't happen
What will happen is at the end of his 3 years we will be no further on and many millions in the hole.
 
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