What's changed since the Derby game.

[Khalekan]

this is a somewhat perilous subject at present mate. Esteemed GOTer @davek has been threatened with libel action over his insinuations regarding Capt Jags and Bainesy.
It's an area I'd prefer to steer well clear of. Suffice to say, Capt Jags and Bainesy are bad eggs.

Whatever you say, say nowt Deip.

M' learned friends might be watching this thread

 

[deipnosophist]

Whatever you say, say nowt Deip.

M' learned friends might be watching this thread

you're not wrong Khal
Our learned friend @jazzy has really thrown the legal cat amongst us unruly pigeons.

 

[markde1]

Like him or not, Klopp provided them with a focal point post Rodgers and was a big enough personality to carry the club for a season or two whilst espousing confidence and positive messages. It has become self fulfilling in he says they are great and they believe it and then play confidently. Our managers - Allardyce side - have for the most part seemed timid and cowered by the size of the club and expectations. This has permeated through to the players and performances.

A number of my mates are RS and I heard recently that under Klopp they have never lost consecutive league games - could be bs.
Irrespective of tactics and players that is belief and desire. Managers can instill that as a basic and then develop strategies based on availability and ability.

Whoever is in situ here next season they need to display confidence, arrogance and sheer strength of characted and show no fear or favour in picking the right players

 

[Big Fat Sam]

I am just pleased our pride of professionals were quickly able to dust themselves down from the disastrous disappointment in the derby and get to work on putting things right. I've been extremely happy with their reaction since then -- you don't get results without the gritty determination and hard work our boys put in, and just seeing them break a sweat several times in the last two months has been heart warming. Long may it continue.

 

[jazzy]

Whatever you say, say nowt Deip.

M' learned friends might be watching this thread

Happily for some on here I'm no longer representing any clients.
But you never know who else may be lurking on this forum.

 

[Nyhus]

Well, if you already have a underdog attitude, punching over your weight class, kinda going strong with swagger for a decent run of games under a new manager, before meeting your main rivals and after 94minutes of playing well in hell, your own keeper just hands satans chosen the game. Again.
I dont know about you, but Id feel that deep, and it would break my moral in a big way. Im not a pro footballer tho, and Id hope those guys would handle it better, but they dont seem too. And I get it. Too bad our current manager doesnt seem able to motivate them back to form, which is a big need when managing Everton.

 

[Khalekan]

Well, if you already have a underdog attitude, punching over your weight class, kinda going strong with swagger for a decent run of games under a new manager, before meeting your main rivals and after 94minutes of playing well in hell, your own keeper just hands satans chosen the game. Again.
I dont know about you, but Id feel that deep, and it would break my moral in a big way. Im not a pro footballer tho, and Id hope those guys would handle it better, but they dont seem too. And I get it. Too bad our current manager doesnt seem able to motivate them back to form, which is a big need when managing Everton.

And this is why I have turned against him.

The derby defeat was as heartbreaking as its nature was farcical.

Of course it will have a morale sapping effect on players, fans, the manager alike.

Silva’s job was to get them up there again....and by ‘eck he could not have asked for a better start than the home game which followed seventy two hours later.

He failed.

And he has failed since.

And sadly I expect he will continue to fail and we will be on the manager hunt.....again....come the end of May.

I think the reason so many on here have come to the conclusion that he is not up to the job so soon into his tenure is because there was nowt in the year he spent in England prior to Watford binning him to suggest things were going to be any better for him here.

But Mr. Moshiri knew better

 

[AndyC]

And this is why I have turned against him.

The derby defeat was as heartbreaking as its nature was farcical.

Of course it will have a morale sapping effect on players, fans, the manager alike.

Silva’s job was to get them up there again....and by ‘eck he could not have asked for a better start than the home game which followed seventy two hours later.

He failed.

And he has failed since.

And sadly I expect he will continue to fail and we will be on the manager hunt.....again....come the end of May.

I think the reason so many on here have come to the conclusion that he is not up to the job so soon into his tenure is because there was nowt in the year he spent in England prior to Watford binning him to suggest things were going to be any better for him here.

But Mr. Moshiri knew better

Allegedly

 

[Khalekan]

Allegedly

lol

 

[Nyhus]

Silva’s job was to get them up there again....and by ‘eck he could not have asked for a better start than the home game which followed seventy two hours later.

He failed.

It really was. There has been a gluttony of chances to turn it around since, but it hasn't happened. Why, only the team knows, but having your players wanting to fight for you and the team is half the job of a manager, isn't it? "Hard work beats talent if talent doesn't work hard", we have a few hard working players, but I don't think we have a hard working team, if that makes sense. Whatever the reason, its Marcos job to fix it.

 

[Pittsburgh Footy]

Lets face it, we only had about 6 good games before the Derby, before that we were terrible, too.

Huddersfield, West Ham, Bournemouth, Wolves, etc.

We weren't terrible at Wolves or Bournemouth though. We lost a man early in each game and still were on the front foot for large periods of time in both games. And scored two goals each

 

[GwladysBlue]

We weren't terrible at Wolves or Bournemouth though. We lost a man early in each game and still were on the front foot for large periods of time in both games. And scored two goals each

Letting leads slip.

Bournemouth also had ten men when they managed to claw themselves back from being 2-0 down. It was atrocious.

 

[longers]

it was a one off fluke, we haven't come close to playing at that level in another match this season.

all the stars aligned perfectly for that one game and we still lost lol

 

[LEONARD]

We've progressed from average to absolute crap.

Not many teams could achieve that.

But never mind, just think of that lovely new stadium scheduled now for 2087.

 

[JelavicBrate2]

Because when things go bad the players we have don't care. Its probably only Seamus Coleman who cares about the club. Do you think Mina and Richarlison give a stuff? They're players trying to progress up the football ladder and only want to know when we are doing well.

I could be wrong but the players of 2019 don't have the same heart as the players ten years before.

It was largely caused by Man City, they inflated prices for players by buying average players for large amounts and then keeping them on the bench. They then started offering huge wages to average players. Look at the dross we've bought for huge amounts of money, Mina, Klassen, Bolaise, Richarlison, Tosun, Snides, too a far lesser extent Pickford and Sigurdsson. You compare than with players like Howard, Jags, Lescott, Baines, Arteta, Pienaar, Felaini, Lukaku, Coleman and Stones. Sadly the club seems to dominated by here today gone tomorrow types, who never seem to understand Everton. The only reason our stadium full is because we sold quite a few cheap season tickets to kids, who will stop going when they're parents or whoever takes them get's sick of our performances. The problem is I don't see any signs that we're moving forwards, we didn't seem to have any plan for transfers when Koemann came in. The failure to replace Lukaku, while having months to find a suitable replacement was completely unforgivable.