Wenger: Everton Can Never be a Top Club

[davek]

The problem is that noone would invest in a club (invest in the real meaning of the term, and not giving Rodgers tens of millions of pounds to waste on yet more overpaid ****e as the rs think it means) on such a basis, you couldnt guarantee any kind of return because of the uncertainty involved and the competition that "top clubs" represent.

Oh yeah, I agree on that. It'd take people like Short at Sunderland or Coates at Stoke to come in and just provide capital for the priviledge of having themselves and their companies associated with a footy club in the globally recognised brand English PL . Admittedly, they're pretty thin on the ground - and they entered those clubs when the heavy lifting of stadium development had already taken place. That'd be our biggest problem: attracting men in of that nature who could settle up with Kenwright and the other parasites in the boardroom and who would patiently build relationships with the local state to sort out a stadium. We are told there's interst though, so maybe it's not all that off-putting..... if the price of shares was reasonably set?

 

[Phenom]

Yawn.

 

[Kurt.]

The Wenger bus is coming and all the kids are running...

He shouldn't have said "never"
At this point I hoped you were going to write 'cos that,s not very clever'




, like, but there's not a great deal wrong with the general gist of what he's saying.

Could have been fantastic my friend.

 

[thebluefox]

hes only telling the truth ,is int bill

 

[Deloodid]

whilst we still play a goodison park, no one will invest. the club doesnt make enough money.
so IMO Wenger is spot on.

 

[MapleLeafEvertonian]

No doubt there are ways around FFP, the top clubs will find a way.

 

[Brownie]

I think it's clear that if they can't do it from a position of being champions eight years ago (and they can't, because they've continually had to sell all their best players) then we've got no chance.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Oh yeah, I agree on that. It'd take people like Short at Sunderland or Coates at Stoke to come in and just provide capital for the priviledge of having themselves and their companies associated with a footy club in the globally recognised brand English PL . Admittedly, they're pretty thin on the ground - and they entered those clubs when the heavy lifting of stadium development had already taken place. That'd be our biggest problem: attracting men in of that nature who could settle up with Kenwright and the other parasites in the boardroom and who would patiently build relationships with the local state to sort out a stadium. We are told there's interst though, so maybe it's not all that off-putting..... if the price of shares was reasonably set?

The chances of luring the former is dramatically reduced by the latter.

Kenwright can spin it all he likes, but if the the club was up for sale for £1 plus the debt there'd be a queue of takers. Therefore the price is definitively the only reason he still owns the majority stakeholding.

He's insulting our intelligence by suggesting anything other.

 

[RFUS]

He's right.

It's not nice to hear what he's saying, but that doesn't mean he's wrong.

 

[Tubey]

One truly great manager would turn our whole club around. Clough, Ferguson, Shankly and maybe one or two others of that ilk could do it.

Football goes in cycles and always will.

Nobody ever foresaw the R/S falling off thier perch but they have in a big way in under two decades. The same could happen to any of the sides up there now.

I don't think it does anymore, honestly. It's not like the old days. The rich clubs now have such a massive head start on everyone else that it's inconceivable that a side without money will win the title in the next 50 years.

Cycles are dead IMO. I'd be surprised if I see Everton so much as lift an FA Cup during my lifetime.

 

[Allezfan]

I still don't believe that it's impossible to challenge at the top without investment.

It's in the interests of the likes of wenger and moyes to pretend that is but this idea that it's entirely impossible these days for a poor club with an excellent manager to come out of nowhere and win the league the way Clough's Forest did or Montpellier did last year in france. I don't buy it.

 

[LTblue]

It's an insane thing for Wenger to just come out with. No need for statements like that about our club thank-you. I believe within 20 years we will have won the league.

 

[Brennan]

He's completely right, as things stand we will never get that kind of investment. Jumping on his use of the word 'never' seems like a bit of desperation to avoid accepting the reality tbh.

 

[Huyton Layne]

Shouldn't he be more worried about Arsenal competing? FFS Wenger

 

[davek]

He's completely right, as things stand we will never get that kind of investment. Jumping on his use of the word 'never' seems like a bit of desperation to avoid accepting the reality tbh.

It's not though. Wenger is right only if all things remain the same for all time. They wont.

For the forseeable Everton wont be a successful club (League titles/CL footy), it almost goes without saying. But who knows what happens long term? The big five was always set in stone years ago: Everton, Liverpool, Arsenal, United and Spurs. No one could see past them because of the cash they had and size of support they attracted. Only two of them are safe bets for top five these days. Maybe rules coming in will make it harder for a breakthrough club (which underlines the criminal waste of time we've spent under Billy Liar, btw). But a club some time outside the current Manchester/London lock up will get the right balance of investment, management and playing talent to puncture that dominance. And these clubs currently on top now are also at the mercy of rich men who can decouple from them in a hurry and on a whim. It's far from done and dusted.