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Wenger: Everton Can Never be a Top Club

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One truly great manager would turn our whole club around. Clough, Ferguson, Shankly and maybe one or two others of that ilk could do it.

Football goes in cycles and always will.

Nobody ever foresaw the R/S falling off thier perch but they have in a big way in under two decades. The same could happen to any of the sides up there now.
 
noharmdone said:
Van Persie gone, Walcott not signing new deal.. in todays press panicking over Wiltshires next contract ? Mmm..
You may have a shiny new ground, but no-one seems to want to hang around these days ?
He has a bit of a point though...
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Yes he does have a point. I wouldn't mind his comments getting some attention, it might be in vain, but it might help motion the wheels long term with the board for us. I think thats me being too optimistic.

But yeah if I was an arsenal fan i'd be slightly annoyed by those comments, considering the lack of spending (in relative terms) arsenal have done. For wenger to point out the lack of finances of another club whilst having little (relative again) spending himself, frustrating for gooners im sure.
 
Wenger only sees what he wants to see. A little too eager to gloss over his own failings. Not a guy whose opinion you would trust. A complete Arsene wipe infact.
 
He's just bitterly ****ging off his competitors now that his club are going to be mid table for the next 20 years.
 
........and in breaking news Lionel Messi has just agreed to join Everton on a free transfer in January with £60K a week wages (6 year contract). Barcelona were understandably upset at these developments but said there was nothing they could do to stop him joining his beloved Everton as the alternative (allowing him to join Real Madrid on a free in the summer) was just too awful to contemplate.
 
He is right though, and if the UEFA Fair Play thing is actually enforced we never will be a top club again, unless the stadium fairy leaves us a hundred thousand seater stadium under the pillow (with attached gold mine and science facility where the secret of nuclear fusion is being unlocked).

The only thing that will let us - and everyone else in europe bar about fifteen clubs - be successful again is a Europe-wide salary cap, set at a sensible (ie: a third of Man City's) level.
 
Maybe his 'never' scenario is based on the incoming FFP rules? You could see his point if you take the view that no shiek or oligarch is going to come into a club soon if they cant buy players to get to win the biggest trophies in football.

It does presume that clubs cant get to the top any other way, though, which I'm not entirely sure about. Even in the PL there's a good chance that a takeover that gave reasonable backing to the right manager to spend can get a toe-hold into a CL place. If you do it a couple of seasons in a row (tough, as Spurs found out) and you have the right commercial team and stadium to exploit it all, it isn't by any means impossible to break through.

'Never' is a big balls on the table statement. He's slipped up there, tbf.
 
tsubaki said:
He is right though, and if the UEFA Fair Play thing is actually enforced we never will be a top club again, unless the stadium fairy leaves us a hundred thousand seater stadium under the pillow (with attached gold mine and science facility where the secret of nuclear fusion is being unlocked).

The only thing that will let us - and everyone else in europe bar about fifteen clubs - be successful again is a Europe-wide salary cap, set at a sensible (ie: a third of Man City's) level.
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FFP is going to close the door a bit, as I mentioned too. I disagree on the stadium stuff though. I've argued before I dont think it's out of our reach if we can get new owners in that can make a fresh start with local public bodies. Financially we could do it with the right mix of public and private involvement.
 
Dont have a problem with him saying that we will never challenge at the top without investment, but to say we never could attract investment is abit out of order. Man City were half the club with half the fan base and even less than half the history and they got investment.
 
davek said:
FFP is going to close the door a bit, as I mentioned too. I disagree on the stadium stuff though. I've argued before I dont think it's out of our reach if we can get new owners in that can make a fresh start with local public bodies. Financially we could do it with the right mix of public and private involvement.
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The problem is that noone would invest in a club (invest in the real meaning of the term, and not giving Rodgers tens of millions of pounds to waste on yet more overpaid ****e as the rs think it means) on such a basis, you couldnt guarantee any kind of return because of the uncertainty involved and the competition that "top clubs" represent.
 
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