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We need to talk about Nottingham Forest.

Final position

  • Top 4

    Votes: 21 8.1%
  • Other European Qualification

    Votes: 68 26.3%
  • Top 10 outside Europe

    Votes: 47 18.1%
  • Complete capitulation bottom half.

    Votes: 123 47.5%

  • Total voters
    259
Who is giving him a pass though ?? Again, thats just making stuff up.

He needed to go, because it got bad....its also ok to say to did well at first for a period.
You said it's hyperbole to suggest that last year was as bad as anything we've ever seen. You're literally giving him a pass by insinuating it wasn't? Attend many games under Dyche? There's a reason The Abbey was gutted when we got shut of him.....
 
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Might not have been a football club here to sign a contract for without what he did so swings and roundabouts.

People quickly forget the nightmare scenario had we gone down in 23 or 24. No Friedkins, no new stadium, wages maybe not even paid, unable to service debts, every first team player and half decent academy prospect sold in a fire sale, administration and points deduction the championship, probably another pointts deduction arriving for PS&R breach. Potential liquidation of the club.

All of that if Dyche had made one wrong move in 23.

But after steering the club away from all of that, and the points deductions the next season, people are still a year later absolutely boiling because he didn’t get the aesthetic brand they wanted out of the likes of Coleman Keane Tarkowski Mykolenko McNeil Lindstrom Harrison Gueye and DCL.
Most of this is true and like i've said previously, he did a great job keeping us up. Absolutely doesn't change the fact that the football was shocking for long period of times, also doesn't change the fact that some players who have signed contracts wouldn't've if he somehow stayed 🤷‍♀️.

Let's see how he does with this forest squad ay?
 
You said it's hyperbole to suggest that last year was as bad as anything we've ever seen. You're literally giving him a pass by insinuating it wasn't? Attend many games under Dyche? There's a reason The Abbey was gutted when we got shut of him.....

You must be very young and / or new to Everton....
 

Might not have been a football club here to sign a contract for without what he did so swings and roundabouts.

People quickly forget the nightmare scenario had we gone down in 23 or 24. No Friedkins, no new stadium, wages maybe not even paid, unable to service debts, every first team player and half decent academy prospect sold in a fire sale, administration and points deduction the championship, probably another pointts deduction arriving for PS&R breach. Potential liquidation of the club.

All of that if Dyche had made one wrong move in 23.

But after steering the club away from all of that, and the points deductions the next season, people are still a year later absolutely boiling because he didn’t get the aesthetic brand they wanted out of the likes of Coleman Keane Tarkowski Mykolenko McNeil Lindstrom Harrison Gueye and DCL.

Spot on.

Very easy so many forget how bad it was behind the scenes....and he had to crack on, smile and get results.

Yet some are nbow really upset with some terms he used to say often..."on the grass".....Moyes also says it...no crying about him saying it..

Draining how OTT too many of our fans go about everything.....nothing is ever in the middle...its always "worst we have ever seen" about every manager / player etc.....pure Hyperbole.
 
Agree with that first bit....that 2nd is just hyperbole again, we have been so much worse under other managers.

Context is needed, we was in a such a bad position off the pitch, and he had to face it all, with no board at all to answer.

He is not a great manager...but he is not exactly the worst ever either.

We had the worst winless run we’ve ever had in the premier league, I think we scored one goal from open play in eleven games at one point as well.

Lost our first five matches at the start of the season. Lost 3-2 after being 2-0 up in the 87th minute.

It was as bad as anything I’ve ever seen.
 
Spot on.

Very easy so many forget how bad it was behind the scenes....and he had to crack on, smile and get results.

Yet some are nbow really upset with some terms he used to say often..."on the grass".....Moyes also says it...no crying about him saying it..

Draining how OTT too many of our fans go about everything.....nothing is ever in the middle...its always "worst we have ever seen" about every manager / player etc.....pure Hyperbole.

Surely this whole post is hyperbole since you’re complaining about only a select few peoples opinions.
 
Spot on.

Very easy so many forget how bad it was behind the scenes....and he had to crack on, smile and get results.

Yet some are nbow really upset with some terms he used to say often..."on the grass".....Moyes also says it...no crying about him saying it..

Draining how OTT too many of our fans go about everything.....nothing is ever in the middle...its always "worst we have ever seen" about every manager / player etc.....pure Hyperbole.
Hahah

Also "pure hyperbole" that we were at the lowest points in football, when Dyche broke nearly every negative record he could except relegate us.
 

Hahah

Also "pure hyperbole" that we were at the lowest points in football, when Dyche broke nearly every negative record he could except relegate us
I just find it strange how anyone can get arsey over a simple fact, the football was shocking, especially last season. He absolutely deserves credit for the great job he did keeping us up during the points deduction season, I and plenty of others have said that loads of times, so I don’t know where this “no middle ground” nonsense comes from.

Personally, I think dismissing how bad last season’s performances were, some of the worst I’ve ever seen, as “pure hyperbole” strays further from the so-called ‘middle ground’ than simply stating the facts ever could. As you said, Dyche broke nearly every negative record he could except relegate us.
 
So are all the Everton lads who used to head to the boozer at half-time instead of watching the rest of the game now being classed as ‘very young or new to Everton’? You come across as 'new to Everton' way more than me mate.....

That has happened under every manager in the last 30 years.

Blues have been leaving for years, some dont evenbother leaving the pub at some points over the years.
 

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