We need to talk about Nottingham Forest.

[pfim]

Not that first season. Leicester were not a bad team, neither were Leeds.

Yeah, the revisionism in this thread is all over the place from both sides.

 

[Saint Domingo]

He scored the goals and made the saves that kept us up, eh? I thought it was the players who finally found their pride and their form -- form that clearly was enough to easily stay up the following season despite deductions. That and the fact there were three teams both seasons who were absolute garbage, far worse than us. You and the orange one bang on about how he was some sort of carthorse whisperer when in reality we survived in spite of him, not because of him. As the last year and recent results have proved.

This is literally an argument to invalidate the position of football manager in its entirety. We’d been in a relegation battle the season before under Lampard with better players. Let’s not pretend the players were good. That Leicester team also were not garbage, KDH was a squad player for them and is now one of our best players.

 

[trueblue84]

I’m defending his record at Everton given how it’s contributed to the current situation. Some people just want an echo chamber then get bothered when the alternative is put forward.

You are clearly amongst the ranks still bothered by him.

To be fair, dyche said "the runs still not really on paper, a bad run if you add wins in..."

That's probably the most embarrassing and insulting thing I've ever heard a professional football manager say. He deserves no respect for how he left Everton.

 

[Rita_Poon]

He only took over in October and has had 11 games and amassed 10 points(I think).

Maintaining his career average of 1 point per game.

tbf, it took till our fifth league game to register a point. got our first win against palace on 28th September. (league).

Maybe there is something about him and certain players. He clearly loves a rough and ready squad of scrappers like what burnley were, the nuance of actual ball playing footballers are another matter. Reckon strangling games and the long ball long throw stuff is irritating the expensive creative types he has there?
We make a big deal about Moyes stepping in and the squad here responding as positive as they did, could part of it being having seen the back of SD?

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[Swartzy]

Fine margins, hard yards, not a miracle worker, soft goals… Looking at the demeanour of some of these Forest players, it really hasn’t taken them very long to look like shells of the players they were. I wonder if any of them will send a good luck message to Seany after the blubbery mess and buffet-danger in charge, gets rid…

I think it's already in set in stone, with Silva not signing his fullham contract..

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

I actually have no real beef with Dyche

Did his job for us and played a part (along with the players and, mostly, the supporters) in keeping us in the PL

He really didn't seem to care about trying to make the last season at Goodison special in any real way, and he'd hit his ceiling by the time he was, correctly, sacked

So I don't wish him any real ill will

That being said; forest treating Nuno how they did, only for him to keep West Ham up instead of them is utterly hilarious and I really want it to happen

 

[Clarky cat]

Trouble in paradise…

 

[canuckblue]

This is literally an argument to invalidate the position of football manager in its entirety. We’d been in a relegation battle the season before under Lampard with better players. Let’s not pretend the players were good. That Leicester team also were not garbage, KDH was a squad player for them and is now one of our best players.

And if Leicester had played even close to their true level, we would have been down. So us staying up was nowt to do with the ginger fraud. Their players didn't do the job, ours did -- barely. The same players who managed the equivalent of 48 points the following season.

 

[Swartzy]

This is literally an argument to invalidate the position of football manager in its entirety. We’d been in a relegation battle the season before under Lampard with better players. Let’s not pretend the players were good. That Leicester team also were not garbage, KDH was a squad player for them and is now one of our best players.

KDH wasn't just a squad player, he shined as soon as he came through

 

[Rita_Poon]

"No one else getting the vibes that certain players aren't really on the bus with Dyche?"

There it is.

 

[davek]

The only salient fact that matters.

His job was to hand us over to new owners as a PL club. He did that.

The obsession with this manager is off the charts.

He's living in so many people's heads because they've convinced themselves he was the enemy of Everton Football Club...when in reality he saved our arses twice in three seasons from oblivion.

I can only think that these same people punch their parents in the face every time they see them.

It's that whacked.

 

[Ring master]

That forest fan who does watchalong has from the minute before he signed never wanted Dyche. Funny thing is he said 2 days ago if Dyche went, he wants silva - As if that would happen

 

[ToffeeTim]

Losing games is never enjoyable but losing games with Dyches style of football is the worst. No fans are going to like it.

 

[Marius57]

Hope they go down. West Ham have a good chance to leapfrog them in the next 2 games.

Don’t like West Ham either. But any fans who chant poverty songs need jettisoned down the leagues in my view.