We must never leave Goodison

[Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian]

Highbury NEVER went off like when we beat Southampton there.

 

[Joey66]

Yes but if we had a billionair owner it could be redeveloped gradualy -arsenals new stadia maybe the reason of the lack of sucess on the pitch!

 

[nigelcoyb]

The impact putting another tier on the park end and sorting the obstructed views would be exponential.

The failure of new stadia to do anything but incur debt and dilute atmosphere has made Goodison into a bastion of how football should be - passionate, historic, working class.

The Utd game with it's thunderous atmosphere has awoken many in the media to this phenomena, on the SKY journo show valuing EFC, Goodison Park and all it stands for was mentioned.

The corrugated plastic grounds have lost something, for us to increase capacity and fill the place as we would with this brand of football would make Goodison the most feared ground in football - again.

If we want to go into the hotel and retail biz buy a bit of land in town and build the things there, only 10 mins away from Goodison ffs.

 

[Slavan]

To remove all of those posts we would effectively be building a new stadium, and alternative supports require more land.

Thats simply not true at all.

 

[Cena]

Imagine we moved, they sold Goodison and it was turned into a retail park, which is a realistic outcome.

People doing their shopping on the same ground as where Ball, Labone, Dean, Sharpe etc all played and picking up their weekly shop where the Lower Gwladys used to be.

No thanks.

 

[Deleted member 28206]

Imagine we moved, they sold Goodison and it was turned into a retail park, which is a realistic outcome.

People doing their shopping on the same ground as where Ball, Labone, Dean, Sharpe etc all played and picking up their weekly shop where the Lower Gwladys used to be.

No thanks.

Prime retail land mate. Asda/Walmart have sniffed around, I know that for a fact. I heard that the RS Would be-owner wanted to merge grounds and put houses up on both grounds when flattened ( the potential investor, wolves owner now? Rumours mind)

 

[bluejock]

Imagine we moved, they sold Goodison and it was turned into a retail park, which is a realistic outcome.

People doing their shopping on the same ground as where Ball, Labone, Dean, Sharpe etc all played and picking up their weekly shop where the Lower Gwladys used to be.

No thanks.

That and the ashes of thousands of Evertonians being scattered at Goodison.

Redeveloping Goodison is the only real way to proceed.

 

[Goat]

Thats simply not true at all.

It simply is true.

 

[Cena]

That and the ashes of thousands of Evertonians being scattered at Goodison.

Redeveloping Goodison is the only real way to proceed.

People forget things like this also.

Would be very disrespectful.

 

[allezlesbleus]

I think everyone would agree with that. The real question is would you enjoy Champions League football in a new place? My guess is you would. Having never been there, I don't have the sentimental attachment to Goodison that all of you do. As a Chicagoan, though, I can tell you that I love Wrigley Field, but the Cubs have never once won a World Series in the place. Not one. The last Cubs world title was won in a park that most people don't even know ever existed.

More appropriately, I cried when the Blackhawks moved out of the old Chicago Stadium, and I still miss it. But a Stanley Cup won while playing in the United Center took a lot of that sting away.

If it meant Everton could return to the importance that their history says they deserve, then I'd move on without a squawk. Winning cures everything and new memories are made.

Is Wrigley Field preventing the Cubs from having success? It looked like we might pull it off a few seasons ago?
I agree that success in a new stadium would begin to create a new history but it would be so good if a new stadium could guarantee retaining the best of Goodison. That is why a really good re-development is an attractive idea to quite a few people.

 

[SheedyBracewellReidSteven]

Is Wrigley Field preventing the Cubs from having success? It looked like we might pull it off a few seasons ago?
I agree that success in a new stadium would begin to create a new history but it would be so good if a new stadium could guarantee retaining the best of Goodison. That is why a really good re-development is an attractive idea to quite a few people.

Quoting a US baseball example is a bit of a red herring? Aren't franchises subject to salary caps, and talent is distributed pretty fairly through the draft system? Very different to English football where the size of your cheque book is all-important. In the absence of a billionaire owner, we need to increase our gate and commercial revenue. That ain't gonna happen at GP as covered above by others.

 

[bourneblue]

Any notion that Goodison can be redeveloped is a fallacy.It would take hundreds of cpo's issued on both residential and retail premises.
All any resident or property owner would have to do is contest the cpo,thus ensuring lengthy legal delays.
When the ****e wanted to develop the old Kemlyn rd stand it took them 30 years plus to acquire the properties to enable the redevelopment.
The costs involved would be enormous and take decades to achieve.
Non starter.

 

[allezlesbleus]

Quoting a US baseball example is a bit of a red herring? Aren't franchises subject to salary caps, and talent is distributed pretty fairly through the draft system? Very different to English football where the size of your cheque book is all-important. In the absence of a billionaire owner, we need to increase our gate and commercial revenue. That ain't gonna happen at GP as covered above by others.

yeah I was going off track there because I was interested in his opinion about whether he thought the stadium was actually hampering the team's capability of success on the pitch. Wasnt actually trying to use it as an example to support either side of the GP argument. In fact for the little I know about the baseball scene I dont think the draft system has a major impact on who'is at the top. I think it may be still mainly due to plain old dosh but dont know for sure.
As regards GP people seem to argue with such conviction for both sides I honestly dont know although I think you are right about our our poor commercial revenue out of Goodison is a real handicap

 

[nigelcoyb]

Any notion that Goodison can be redeveloped is a fallacy.It would take hundreds of cpo's issued on both residential and retail premises.
All any resident or property owner would have to do is contest the cpo,thus ensuring lengthy legal delays.
When the ****e wanted to develop the old Kemlyn rd stand it took them 30 years plus to acquire the properties to enable the redevelopment.
The costs involved would be enormous and take decades to achieve.
Non starter.

What you mean is it wouldn't be straightforward.

"Fallacy" - no.

 

[Cena]

Its such a myth that Goodison can't be redeveloped