Wayne Rooney transfer "agreed in principle"

[Darren Higgs]

I was happy for his return and though he did alright over the season but I don't think he is good enough to hold down a starting place for next season. Rooney doesn't want to be a bit part player so probably best he moves on.

 

[CahillsCornerFlag]

SELL. What position does he excel in? None. That means you have to cater for him, and build the team around him. Doing that for a Wayne Rooney whose legs have gone would be utterly ridiculous.

 

[marcus]

What would you like the poll question to be?

Tricky, as whether fans want him to stay is one question, whether they want him to stay as a regular starter (the only feasible option really) is another

Should just be a poll... Sell or stay...

Anything else than it has a slant on it to be fair...

 

[ClausThomsen]

Im not being facetious mate, just curious i didn't know that if another club bids for a player and wants to give them a contract then the club that is receiving bid are liable for playing the remainder of their contract - surely that cant be right?

Depends entirely on whether all parties involved can come to an agreement. Wayne Rooney signed a two year deal with EFC and there has to be an agreement if that contract is to be cancelled.

It’s incorrect. The player decides my mutual consent to remove themselves from the contract to facilitate the transfer.

Not necessarily. There is no hard and fast rule on how an agreement to cancel a contract is made - certain conditions must legally be met but there is no defined way as each contract is unique and the decision to terminate is dependent on the wishes of those involved.

It's similar to a divorce - it can be mutual and amicable or a downright nasty affair involving great expense.

The £12M fee being bandied about is so close to the sums involved with his contract and other fees that it seems like a free transfer with DC picking up the contractual expenses on behalf of EFC and not simply £12M being paid to Everton.

 

[Neiler]

Depends entirely on whether all parties involved can come to an agreement. Wayne Rooney signed a two year deal with EFC and there has to be an agreement if that contract is to be cancelled.



Not necessarily. There is no hard and fast rule on how an agreement to cancel a contract is made - certain conditions must legally be met but there is no defined way as each contract is unique and the decision to terminate is dependent on the wishes of those involved.

It's similar to a divorce - it can be mutual and amicable or a downright nasty affair involving great expense.

The £12M fee being bandied about is so close to the sums involved with his contract and other fees that it seems like a free transfer with DC picking up the contractual expenses on behalf of EFC and not simply £12M being paid to Everton.

Good post mate, interesting stuff, I think I’m right in saying though that if the player, buying club and selling club are in agreement on the move being preferable then the selling club has no liability, isn’t this conventially what happens in football. Take Lukaku as an example last summer, we didn’t have to pay the remainder of his contract. Or Ross Barkley. This strikes me as the same premise in the Rooney deal albeit all we know is what the media is reposting.

 

[newton-stewart-blues]

He hasn’t scored in 2018. Hardly a player who can ‘bag you goals’ is he?

Over a season? Aye.

 

[newton-stewart-blues]

Baines or Siggy or even Tosun could have bagged those penalties. Every time Rooney steps up to one I expect him to miss to be honest.

"...could have..." I can't argue with that.

 

[ClausThomsen]

Good post mate, interesting stuff, I think I’m right in saying though that if the player, buying club and selling club are in agreement on the move being preferable then the selling club has no liability, isn’t this conventially what happens in football. Take Lukaku as an example last summer, we didn’t have to pay the remainder of his contract. Or Ross Barkley. This strikes me as the same premise in the Rooney deal albeit all we know is what the media is reposting.

If all parties agree that no comp is due then yes. Otherwise the players is still entitled to the remainder of his contract just as the selling club is entitled to call off the deal. The clubs can agree a deal between them but the player is still entitled to the remainder of his contract as it is a legally binding agreement - An agreed amount of money over an agreed amount of years. Sometimes the buying club is willing to pick up the tab, sometimes the selling club is glad enough to get rid and sometimes the player is willing to forego the amount or an agreed percentage in order to facilitate the move.

Look at Rooney back to Everton - Man Utd still paid a portion of his wages to facilitate the move and get at least the majority of his wages off their books. Back in the 90's or early 2000's the likes of Leeds and Portsmouth probably did a lot of this as they were desperate to cut outgoings.

There's maybe no liability if a player submits a written transfer request - That's why they're so rare these days as it means losing out on a lot of money.

It's all dependent on agreements being made - For instance it has been reported that the £15M deal for Barkley involved £7M going to his agent and not £15M going to Everton and since he had only six months remaining on his deal there's a chance he was willing to forego that given the signing on fee that Bosman's generally attract.

 

[TrixyStevens]

Two diametrically opposed views here and BOTH are wrong.
Rooney WAS a world class player. He no longer is BUT he would sill be in the top 50% of premier players.

He makes it into that list on past reputation. His skills have diminished at PL level.

 

[Deleted member 41045]

Latest reports saying he might be staying now that The Bisto Kid has gone.

 

[mightymoyes]

Latest reports saying he might be staying now that The Bisto Kid has gone.

well thats next season ruined already, no higher than mid-table again if he plays.

 

[Axlswhk]

well thats next season ruined already, no higher than mid-table again if he plays.

Exactly, there’s not many variety we can play with him in the side, definitely not fast and pacy counter attack.
It will be repeated tiresome attempt to try something but end up losing the ball with the slightest pressure.
Midfield will be a nightmare as he can’t get up and down fast enough and other teammates need to cover for his deficiency just to let him play.
We’re basically playing with 10.5 man every match he’s involve, and people kept saying we have no shape in terms of defence and attack, he’s very much the part of the reason.

 

[DrEFC]

Bye mate. He's on his way to the U.S. at the min.
Wayne Rooney (@WayneRooney) Tweeted:
https://t.co/bjvUBjvUQe

 

[Big Fat Sam]

This article scraping the barrel for positives to his move - hilarious read!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...poacher/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ba0eaaa75fc8


Selected quotes:

There is no doubt that he’s declined from his Manchester United prime but he won’t stand around and be a liability

That simple question has stuck with the notoriously positionless Rooney throughout his career, especially as his aging has highlighted his lack of pace and pushed him back into central midfield. It’s unlikely he will be trusted as a lone striker in D.C.’s attack, in part due to the defensive and pressing responsibilities that position carries and in part due to more favorable options.

Whatever athletic capability he has, he will provide a level of connectedness and nuance with the ball that United has not seen with this squad.

This lineup could both maximize Rooney’s talents as a connecter and goal-poacher and mask his deficiencies in mobility by moving closer to a double pivot midfield system.

 

[summerisle]

Please enlighten me - what's a cleat, and who is Brandon ?