Match Thread Watford v Everton Sat 24th Feb 17:30

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I can't stand Allaryce, but you can't polish a turd. Our players just aren't good enough.

As crap as Allardyce is, Koeman is largely to blame for this shambles for bringing in the wrong personnel.

I'll still get behind the players because it's not their fault that they're crap, but the fact remains.

Always maintained this. Koeman killed this season and anybody else is on a right hiding.
 
We aren’t safe yet, but even we aren’t crap enough not to get 6 or 7 points from 10 games. We have just got 6 from 3 previous to today.
And we took 2 points from six games prior to that, we can all pick runs of games to suit our arguments. I think we'll probably be OK but we've got some tough games coming up.
 
..Unsworth was in charge at Southampton. Remember Joe Royle having to come down from the stand because he’d lost the plot. It hasn’t got any worst than that this season but this is a debate that’s been had.

Don’t recall you posting this after our win against Palace.

Southampton away was appalling but Arsenal away was no better.
If all you're looking to do is tread water this year then no reason Unsworth couldn't have stayed.
Still don't think we've ever been at serious risk of relegation.
Board's arses just went that's all so we're shipping a wedge SA, SL and CS's way for no tangible benefit.
 
And we took 2 points from six games prior to that, we can all pick runs of games to suit our arguments. I think we'll probably be OK but we've got some tough games coming up.

So what you are saying is we have took 8 points from our last 10 then? Seems like we have the same argument, no?
 
..Unsworth was in charge at Southampton. Remember Joe Royle having to come down from the stand because he’d lost the plot. It hasn’t got any worst than that this season but this is a debate that’s been had.

Don’t recall you posting this after our win against Palace.
His swan song was our best performance of the season we were never in the bottom three when Sam took over let's end that myth !
It was a desperately poor decision the boring poor football served up along with expensive signings carries on.....
 
Predictable unfortunately, there were some poor displays there. Rooney was awful, he can see a pass but can't pass the ball to an Everton player. Gueye tried hard but not good enough. Walcot invisible. The defence was OK but nothing in midfield or up front. Niasse tries hard but is clueless. Davies as always runs around and does nothing. We played for a 0-0 and lost to a stronger better Watford team. No excuses from Sam for this. We are an awful team.

I think you`re jumping the gun with the " no excuses from Sam " .

He hasn`t chosen a player to throw under the bus yet.

My money is on Tosun.
 
I never noticed it at the time but Keane actually ducked out of the way of the shot.

Not only was his positional sense so poor but he then did that. The man is a coward.

Move him on in the summer.

Awful signing.
 
So what you are saying is we have took 8 points from our last 10 then? Seems like we have the same argument, no?
As I said, we will probably be OK. That being said in the next five games we have two away games (we've seen how well we do in them), the RS and City at home (that's 0 points unless a miracle happens) and an in form Brighton at home. I have no doubt that there is no fight in our squad so if we return two points or less in those 5 games, which is entirely possible, and other results go against us we could see a collapse. I repeat, though, we'll likely be OK but we shouldn't count any chickens. Our manager and our playing squad are cowards and bottle jobs.
 
Southampton away was appalling but Arsenal away was no better.
If all you're looking to do is tread water this year then no reason Unsworth couldn't have stayed.
Still don't think we've ever been at serious risk of relegation.
Board's arses just went that's all so we're shipping a wedge SA, SL and CS's way for no tangible benefit.
We were but if I'm being honest it was more luck in the games after Sam had arrived not any improvement in our play.

We are just as bad as under Korman. The only difference is we are noe used to it.
 
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