Wanting Success.

[peteblue]

It starts at the top. John Moores would not have tolerated the crap we’ve been served since the Prem started. We’d have needed a fleet of taxis to offload many on our list of managers.....

 

[Seathestars]

Boss post this, to be fair.

The older generation who saw Peter Reid, Howard Kendall, Andy King etc. are now happy for Schneiderlin to laze about and cry about people criticising him.

It’s no wonder we haven’t won anything for years.

I saw those glory years mate and I thought the fans were right to boo that lazy dog. Not all the older generation settle for this crap. I’ll be there tomorrow and I will scream and shout if they don’t give 100%.
This summed it up for me a couple of years ago.

https://www.grandoldteam.com/2016/05/08/mediocrity-disease-everton-fans-arent-allowed-think-big/

 

[Blues Harp]

He was a yes man. He was simply the boards mouth piece, simple as that. Everton is rotten from the top down.

Glad you included the board in your comment....kenwrong and co were happy with staying in the top 10 of the prem with maybe the chance of a trophy/Europe and held on to Moyes well past his sell by date.....we are now suffering the consequences.

 

[Seathestars]

It starts at the top. John Moores would not have tolerated the crap we’ve been served since the Prem started. We’d have needed a fleet of taxis to offload many on our list of managers.....

 

[Jimmy Grimble]

Glad you included the board in your comment....kenwrong and co were happy with staying in the top 10 of the prem with maybe the chance of a trophy/Europe and held on to Moyes well past his sell by date.....we are now suffering the consequences.

Utter tosh. We were regular top 7. Finished 4th one season. Punched well above our weight. With little funds we were lucky to have Moyes. I'd trade what we've got now for some of the footie moyes teams played. And as for kenwright, we all told him to get someone with money in. He did. Yet we're still blaming him.

 

[NEWSWEETTOFFEE]

What if our (board's, player's, fan's etc.) total sum of amounts of desires to win just isn't enough even to stay in PL in next few years, in comparison to what other clubs can ammas?

 

[bignev23]

There's a difference between wanting success and cry arsing about not being successful.

 

[FC sexy xxx]

Please calmly put your head back on, I know I said the S word and the W word in the same sentence.

Fans of yesteryear hung banners ‘Sack Catterick, Keep Young’, they jostled him in a car park, they stayed away from Goodison in their droves no less than 3 seasons after a title winning campaign. Catterick responded with a cup win, Alan Ball was brought in and one of the greatest sides in English football history was created to win the title again.

These same fans daubed ‘Kendall out’ on the walls of Bellefield, they threw cushions at the team, they would not go to Goodison, 30,000 stay at home fans couldn’t be wrong. Kendall went on to win the cup and created one of the greatest sides in English football history.

Young fans now have not seen success in any way shape or form. Trophies may as well be a myth and home derby wins can be counted on one hand, away ones on one finger. We are not jostling managers in car parks because we’re not winning trophies, we’re not staying away from Goodison (although I still think more should), and we’re not throwing stuff into the hallowed turf in disgust.

Yet look at the reaction to what little fans have done. A section of fans booed Schneiderlin: ‘embarassing, not real fans, how’s that supporting the team’, they flew a few planes against Kenwright: ‘careful what you wish for, cringeworthy, disrespectful’, they daubed Martinez out on Goodison ‘how dare they, embarassing the fans, just no patience’, they hung Martinez out banners and ones in support of Baines ‘cringeworthy, no patience, won’t wait for anything, Kopite behaviour’.

If so much as a blue flare is lit - kopite behaviour

If we get excited about a raft of new signings - Geordies

If anyone dares stand up or sing at the match even - ‘sit down’.


What happened to Everton fans? How did they go from knocking down a title winning manager to being revolted by any fan who dares do anything in the name of wanting success. Would you prefer we all sat in silence whilst Kenwright and Elstone preside over another decade of mediocrity?

Do you know what that behaviour gets you? It gets you the clip art badge, it gets you ‘expected losses’, it gets you close to a decade of no derby wins, it gets you the local paper telling you why you should be 11th. It gets you managers hired after relegation, it gets you Cuco Martina, Ashley Williams and Morgan Schneiderlin. It gets you Sam Allardyce telling you that we can’t win a game of football before we’ve even started. Is this what you want?

Don’t settle for what they feed you.

Demand better, expect better, never give up on Nil Satis Nisi Optimum.

Tell that old fart or that stupid bearded hipster at the match to shut their hole when they tell you to sit down, stop booing or put your banner away.

It had to start with the fans. Once we let go Elstone Kenwright et al have won. They’re almost there. Packed crowds at Goodison to watch a Sam Allardyce team after they sold all our best players and we gave up every trophy this season. It’s a disgrace. A disgrace that Everton fans of previous generations would never ever have stood for. There’s nothing embarassing about wanting success.

Demand better.

Great post apart from the sit down part. You should be aware of arl people behind you who aren’t as mobile. It’s just decency and respectful especially if in the likes of the lower & upper bullens or upper st end as both stands are were most of the older ones go .

 

[Agent Blue]

Boss post this, to be fair.

The older generation who saw Peter Reid, Howard Kendall, Andy King etc. are now happy for Schneiderlin to laze about and cry about people criticising him.

It’s no wonder we haven’t won anything for years.

I'm one of the old farts to which you refer but I want Schneiderlin, Allerdyce, Walsh and Elstone out of our club BECAUSE I saw the players you mention. They set the benchmark for how we judge the club today and if the current squad can't display the same passion then they don't deserve to wear the shirt.

 

[Bluebonic]

Although I have seen more success at Everton than most, it isnt the lack of success that galls me, rather the lack of entertainment. I would be quite content with the Tottenham situation at present, not winning but playing fabulous football. I might be accused of lacking ambition, but i buy my season ticket to be entertained, success is a cherry on entertainments cake!

 

[peteblue]

Boss post this, to be fair.

The older generation who saw Peter Reid, Howard Kendall, Andy King etc. are now happy for Schneiderlin to laze about and cry about people criticising him.

It’s no wonder we haven’t won anything for years.

Erm, I think you’ll find the ‘older generation’ accept nothing of the sort. Neither Alan Ball nor Peter Reid were especially gifted footballers, but both were winners and put their heart and soul and bite into a game. We need to get shut of anyone who’s just here for the payday, including Sam......

 

[Azzurri]

I'm one of the old farts to which you refer but I want Schneiderlin, Allerdyce, Walsh and Elstone out of our club BECAUSE I saw the players you mention. They set the benchmark for how we judge the club today and if the current squad can't display the same passion then they don't deserve to wear the shirt.

Erm, I think you’ll find the ‘older generation’ accept nothing of the sort. Neither Alan Ball nor Peter Reid were especially gifted footballers, but both were winners and put their heart and soul and bite into a game. We need to get shut of anyone who’s just here for the payday, including Sam......

I’ve already had my big bite lads, but thanks for playing. I agree with you both, although Pete I’m not sure Alan Ball wasn’t especially gifted.

 

[peteblue]

I’ve already had my big bite lads, but thanks for playing. I agree with you both, although Pete I’m not sure Alan Ball wasn’t especially gifted.

He was a genius, but I meant gifted like the skills of Young. He knew where the net was and he knew how to drive a team forward and his effort and will to win was second to none, him and Young were my all time favourite players......

Edit, I will get you back...... lol

 

[Lowste]

Your writing is well thought out and I see your point, but a lot of it is the too cool for school mind set some have.

This though;



Does my head in. Stand, chant, shout, or else what’s the point?

Not saying arranged singing sections are my cup of tea, they always seem a bit too contrived for me, but telling someone to sit down is silly unless you’re impeding someone.

Not sure over the singing areas myself, but I guess before all seater stadiums we did have areas of the ground were people congregated to sing
Is there any real difference, besides it being organised

 

[gorgeousgeorgeEFC]

We can all throw our toys out of the pram but it wouldn't have let us keep Lukaku, Ross or Stones or allowed us to buy the likes of Mata.

Talk is cheap but top quality players aren't and we don't have the money to compete at the very highest level.

Fair point.