2025/26 Vitalii Mykolenko

[EGWToffee]

Not particularly a Moyes fan but trust his judgement on a player. If he was ready he’d be playing.

See this for me is what frustrates me with Moyes. He’s too cautious with young players. He doesn’t let them express themselves, make mistakes and gain experience.

That’s not me suggesting Aznou is ready and should be playing. It’s me suggesting that young players are rarely trusted by Moyes. He thrives off experienced players.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

See this for me is what frustrates me with Moyes. He’s too cautious with young players. He doesn’t let them express themselves, make mistakes and gain experience.

That’s not me suggesting Aznou is ready and should be playing. It’s me suggesting that young players are rarely trusted by Moyes. He thrives off experienced players.

He did bring a lot of young players through in his first time here and not many that were let go really went on to have big careers. He is not a risk taker for sure I’d agree with that and the line ups are always fairly predictable.
I was happy when he left as it put an end to all that.

 

[Charlie Sweet]

See this for me is what frustrates me with Moyes. He’s too cautious with young players. He doesn’t let them express themselves, make mistakes and gain experience.

That’s not me suggesting Aznou is ready and should be playing. It’s me suggesting that young players are rarely trusted by Moyes. He thrives off experienced players.

He's an absolute embarrassment. Moyes is playing now for around 14th in the table and will claim it a huge success. Needs to be driven out of the club asap

 

[EGWToffee]

He did bring a lot of young players through in his first time here and not many that were let go really went on to have big careers. He is not a risk taker for sure I’d agree with that and the line ups are always fairly predictable.
I was happy when he left as it put an end to all that.

I can probably count on one hand how many young players came through under Moyes and became regular first 11 starters week in week out. Osman and maybe Coleman. The youngish players he brought in from other clubs had already amassed lots of top flight games at other clubs. Baines, Jagielka, Lescott etc. Barkley wasnt used enough and you could even argue Rooney wasnt.

 

[Frosty1878]

I don’t know about stats, I’m not even sure what stats could say this, but we’ve seen him do great defensive jobs on top wingers like Saka and Salah before

Of course he’s not good enough but I don’t agree he’s not been good defensively whilst we’ve been fighting relegation

Give it a rest he’s had the odd good game reality is he’s absolutely garbage. Backs against the wall and numbers behind the ball he gets away with it he’s dreadful with the ball and not good defensively either I’d rather play O’Brien RB than have myko LB but they’re both killing us.

 

[DaChunk]

The game has moved on from Tony Hibbert mold players, been saying it forever. Not sure why people have been saying that Myko has been improving under Moyes without the Dyche handbrake on etc... He is limited and should be an option on the bench. Solid defender nothing more.

 

[royvernon39]

Mikolenko seems to have lost pace and now should be replaced. Not good enough as an attacking full back and offers little support to Grealish. A new left back is our top priority in January even more so than another centre forward.

 

[Zatara]

Actually got me thinking as well. First thought was that Moyes was the one to sign Stones, but all he did in the 6 months before he left was put him on the bench a few times. He was around 18-19 then. Also remember he chased after Kyle Walker (and the other Kyle that was more highly rated, they both signed for Spurs that summer).

Baines and Coleman were like 21 and 22 respectively when he handed them their first EFC games, and both were actually played quite early on after signing. They also had ample experience from before.

Not counting other things like the Europa League dead rubbers where he fielded a squad of schoolboys, or other anomalies like Jack Rodwell (debut age 16 in midfield, could technically play and occasionally, much later, played centre back)... I can't think of a youngster getting a debut in defence

Moyes record with blooding youngsters used to be very aggressive. It feels like it has changed. Might be the game has changed a bit anyway.

Anyway, my impression is that getting them ready in terms of mentality or physicality is what's going on with Aznou and Dibling. Though that would only be speculation.

Yes i thought about Stones and other players like the Kyle's (we were after Naughton until Sheff Utd said its both or nothing due to Spurs double bid).

The fact is that Moyes has never signed a teenage or u21 defender and played them - at least in their first season.

Not sure what you mean by "aggressive" i think the club had no money and Moyes was forced fo use young players when desperate.

See this for me is what frustrates me with Moyes. He’s too cautious with young players. He doesn’t let them express themselves, make mistakes and gain experience.

That’s not me suggesting Aznou is ready and should be playing. It’s me suggesting that young players are rarely trusted by Moyes. He thrives off experienced players.

Yeah we dont know much or anything about Aznou behind the scenes but looking at Moyes, this season would be a write off for him even if he was anything other than Maldini.

I can probably count on one hand how many young players came through under Moyes and became regular first 11 starters week in week out. Osman and maybe Coleman. The youngish players he brought in from other clubs had already amassed lots of top flight games at other clubs. Baines, Jagielka, Lescott etc. Barkley wasnt used enough and you could even argue Rooney wasnt.

I watched Hibberts debut a year or two pre-Moyes and think he became a regular in Moyes first season?

Coleman was sent out on loan and Osman must have been 23 until getting regular games.

Aside from Rooney i cant think of any young player hes brought through. Nor can i think of a young defender hes signed and played.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

See this for me is what frustrates me with Moyes. He’s too cautious with young players. He doesn’t let them express themselves, make mistakes and gain experience.

That’s not me suggesting Aznou is ready and should be playing. It’s me suggesting that young players are rarely trusted by Moyes. He thrives off experienced players.

Probably the difference between 2 nil or 4 nil drubbing. Won't take many drubbings for the same shouts of give youth a chance to turn too derision jeering of said youth.

 

[Neiler]

Hes hit his ceiling here and it isnt good enough.

Id look to move him on and player trade if we can.

 

[Kev The Rat]

Wouldnt make a championship side imo

 

[dannyboy]

Wouldnt make a championship side imo

Quite similar to Tom Davies. When he leaves, you'll barely hear from him. I predict he'll head to a team towards the bottom of somewhere like the Bundesliga at first.

 

[Lawrence]

I cant knock Moyes. I DIDNT want him back, far too close to Kenwrong. He is doing a good job, but this lad is typical Moyes. Tries hard, fit, but limited, a bit like Moyes himself. Don't reach for the stars, lets get the basics right. Middle for diddle.

 

[Thesouthallarms]

He needs replacing asap

 

[Axlswhk]

I saw improvements yesterday, something which I didn’t see in his entire Everton career. Baines style feint cross follow by drag back and losing his marker. Twice, leading to genuine goal attempts. He is learning but it’s a shame he took so long to try this trick.