Viewpoint on Modern Refereeing (Sports in General)

[Simon Buttle]

There isn’t a single good referee in world football, that’s why I can’t understand when people moan about us getting certain ones. It’s not going to be any better regardless.

There are a couple of decent ones but oddly they all ref in rubbish league's like Holland and Belgium and places like that

 

[chrismpw]

Clattenberg refs like he is on Stars In Your Eyes though, im glad he was not there he makes everything about him, standard of refs in this country is so poor as we have already seen to our cost so far this season.

I genuinely can't believe that so many refs are bad. The issue does not seem to exist in any other sport. In rugby it is far mote difficult to see infringements yet the refs cope.

All this leads me to conclude that they're not bad refs, they're bent cheats and they're willing to sell out simply because of the ridiculous amount of cash swilling about in the game. (Again, for this I blame the sky subscribers - aye, I know there were dodgy decisions before sky tv, but now they're an epidemic.

 

[Simon Buttle]

I genuinely can't believe that so many refs are bad. The issue does not seem to exist in any other sport. In rugby it is far mote difficult to see infringements yet the refs cope.

All this leads me to conclude that they're not bad refs, they're bent cheats and they're willing to sell out simply because of the ridiculous amount of cash swilling about in the game. (Again, for this I blame the sky subscribers - aye, I know there were dodgy decisions before sky tv, but now they're an epidemic.

It's only since sky tv that they have gone pro, and they get a fair old wedge for it too.Its good money being a ref. But then you get ones like in the Bournemouth game who was just bad for both teams.

 

[brigadier]

Its the interpretation of the rules that winds me up, one week it's a red card next week it's not even a foul.

 

[Lob]

The level of referring in the top flight is the worst i have seen it for years, probably ever. There is absolutely no consistency whatsoever and pretty much every single game has some sort of controversy in it and leaves everyone completely baffled. It is difficult to figure out why it has gotten so poor but suffice to say the whole refereeing organisation needs a complete overhaul from top to bottom. Not going to happen anytime soon though. Why would it when they are basically a law unto themselves with mostly zero unaccountability.

 

[toffeejack]

I like that idea a lot and could see it working well and fairly.
However id have the absolute ceiling at 10k a week, which is an astoundingly generous amount for playing a hobby, and more than anybody needs.

The European courts would probably be used to stop you though, impinging earnings etc. Bunch of fools.

Ha yeah, I know 100k is way too high just trying to realistic regarding they do have to earn enough to last their life because they do kind of jack in school these days to consecrate solely on football. But when you think of it, why should that be any different to Olympic athletes? Look at Jamie Roberts, wales and lions centre and still had time to study to become a doctor at the same time.

I understand the pressures are greater in football and its probaly a harder sport than others to become a professional, but the selection is also a lot larger than other sort sports.

 

[toffeejack]

The level of referring in the top flight is the worst i have seen it for years, probably ever. There is absolutely no consistency whatsoever and pretty much every single game has some sort of controversy in it and leaves everyone completely baffled. It is difficult to figure out why it has gotten so poor but suffice to say the whole refereeing organisation needs a complete overhaul from top to bottom. Not going to happen anytime soon though. Why would it when they are basically a law unto themselves with mostly zero unaccountability.

Definitely at its lowest. The main issue is that most of the laws are too vague and too open to interpretation. What one ref will think is a handball, another will think is ball to hand etc. It'll be the same in most sports but the fact that every minute thing is scrutinised over and over makes it a lot worse.

When do you see a manager praise an official? Hughes the other week vs us, the ref was favouring them with everything and he goes and blames the ref over something that wasn't even a talking point.... Yet he made it into one. They moan about a foul which leads to a throw in which will lead to a goal as well instead of noticing there were a few phases after the injustice, I don't see this in other sports.

 

[toffeejack]

Or an increase in cheating

Nah, I'd have minimised cheating by now, players would realise they miss too much gametime because of it.

I think I set wage with players getting paid bonuses for things like appearances would be the way to go. Players getting paid astronomical wages and then sulking every game is what's running the sport somewhat. They know they still get paid because they're training all the time. But how can some players get paid 80k a week for sitting on the bench each week? It's not something I view as fair.

 

[COYBL25]

Only my opinion, but there needs to be a " ground zero " for the way the rules are enforced.

If the F.A. told the clubs from the start of a season in the near future, that the rules on swearing at refs, diving, feigning injury etc were going to be enforced to the letter of the law and that the refs would receive 100% backing from them, it`d soon stop.

The introduction of sin bin, similar to rugby, would help no end too, for things like mouthing off and time wasting.

They won`t though, as the players / clubs are too powerful and you`ve got pricks like Clattenburg, who`d use the sanctions, to put the spotlight on himself.

 

[Tel001]

Decisions need to be quick. If the player dives, the game runs for 5 minutes and then he is sent off, what happens if he has scored a goal in that time? Or provided an assist?

If you stop the game and rush the ref you will make mistakes. If players know they are getting caught and a 3 game ban, they won’t be doing it at all will they?

 

[Ghoat]

Decisions need to be quick. If the player dives, the game runs for 5 minutes and then he is sent off, what happens if he has scored a goal in that time? Or provided an assist?

I think generally, if a player dives, it would be called on the spot, if it wasn't it would be because the ref was playing advantage. In that case, the offending player wouldn't be scoring or providing an assist, because his infraction created the advantage for the other team. And if it didn't materialize, play would be stopped and brought back to the point of the infraction, card issued etc....

 

[chrismpw]

Ha yeah, I know 100k is way too high just trying to realistic regarding they do have to earn enough to last their life because they do kind of jack in school these days to consecrate solely on football. But when you think of it, why should that be any different to Olympic athletes? Look at Jamie Roberts, wales and lions centre and still had time to study to become a doctor at the same time.

I understand the pressures are greater in football and its probaly a harder sport than others to become a professional, but the selection is also a lot larger than other sort sports.

I don't go along with their argument about 'it has to last their live.'. All these footballers complete their schooling. In a 10-year career they'll be earning more than several do in entire lifetimes. So what if we paid them a mire normal wage? By the time they're 30 they could re-train and take a normal job like the rest of us. I really don't get why they think they should just sit back after 10 years being paid to have fun and let the rest of us grind on. We've just sleepwalked unto accepting this situation as being ok.

 

[WA Toffee]

Its the interpretation of the rules that winds me up, one week it's a red card next week it's not even a foul.

The worst is the so called crackdowns. Was it last season Niasse got a retrospective ban for diving, then it never happened again for anyone else. We also got a penalty for Jags or Williams getting held at a corner, next week refs just let all teams do it again

 

[Ghoat]

The worst is the so called crackdowns. Was it last season Niasse got a retrospective ban for diving, then it never happened again for anyone else. We also got a penalty for Jags or Williams getting held at a corner, next week refs just let all teams do it again

Agreed. I'd be fine with the crackdowns, if they lasted more than a couple weeks. Last year or 2 years ago, they were going to crackdown on the crowding the ref after calls. And like the Niasse thing, they called it once or twice early, and then dropped it.

 

[Timhowardsswearbox]

If you stop the game and rush the ref you will make mistakes. If players know they are getting caught and a 3 game ban, they won’t be doing it at all will they?

When I say ‘quickly’ I mean it in the sense that the game can’t go on for a long period before the decision is made. Players will still find ways of playing just on the cusp of the rules, but we should be using VAR to make sure the game is played as fairly as possible.