VAR


The element that annoys me is that if we follow this pattern for the rest of the league, no defender can put his body in the way of a ball. He didn’t move his arms in an un-natural way, he just jumped in front of the ball and hit his shoulder (upper arm)
 
If that Pen incident happened at the other end we would all have been shouting for the pen.

Don't think Tarks helped the situation by looking guilty as hell when getting up and pointing to his arm.
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The element that annoys me is that if we follow this pattern for the rest of the league, no defender can put his body in the way of a ball. He didn’t move his arms in an un-natural way, he just jumped in front of the ball and it his shoulder (upper arm)

Totally agree here, if the defender can’t ‘in good faith’ move his arms to his side or behind his back, you are creating a situation where they actively have to move out of the line of travel of the ball instead.
 
There'll never be a case for VAR being implemented properly for as long as humans are operating it.

Show ref cams on TV more often so people can see how hard it is to referee a game in real time. The biggest flaw of VAR will always be that it gives crap refs more time to come to a bad decision. At the very least, get rid of using slow mo in replays, it's nonsensical.

We need to go back to how it was. Refs have always and will always be useless, but trying to intellectualise what they do is killing the game.
 

Going by the way they've implemented it after last night this means nobody can jump up in a defensive wall cos if it hits their arm down by their side its a penalty which is absolute nonsense, but that's effectively what the law nust now be after that decision last night. Once again though var gets hammered but it's the clowns using it that are the problem not the system itself
 
Main thing here is linesman shouldn't be making penalty calls...

They can suggest it be looked at and the referee can consult the pitchside monitor...

The ref is paid to make decisions, not some gimp miles away , not a linesman who showed multiple times they were incapable of keeping up with play....

Funny how he couldnt spot the ball going out of play, failed to spot the deflection, but somehow spotted an intention handball....

Might as well start giving decisions based off the crowd, oh wait....
 
Any incident to me is always based on the, 'would that have been given against LFC and what would have been the reaction if it had'. If that had been given against lfc then there would have been wall to wall coverage, still photos that it hit the sleeve and not just the arm, how the ref./liner is biased against them, weeks and months later they'd still be talking about it - Diaz disallowed offside goal against Spurs for instance. VAR is bent, the prem is bent, officiated by officials too scared - in case they give the 'wrong' decision against the established order or a particular 'agenda' they have, eg. against us with the points deduction - that they'll lose their livelihood to properly ref. games in the premier league. And when they are caught out, virtually making the rules up as they go along, like last night, the 'established order' - Neville and Carragher - step in to back up the officials. We should be used to it by now, but it still hurts.
 

Ref says it wasn’t his decision so passing the buck to a corrupt var ref. First game ffs. Going to be a long season
Dont know why VAR couldn't have passed the buck back to the ref and told him to check it on screen. It seemed obvious the Ref was told in his ear etc that he was told it was a pen by the time he took to give it
 
If you look at the penalty claim that VAR denied Forest, when the Brentford defender had his arm well away from his body and had watched the ball travel in a straight line for 15 yards.. and then look at the one given against Tarks. It’s absolutely incredible which one they gave as a penalty.

We need to be raising this officially for clarity.
 
Ref says it wasn’t his decision so passing the buck to a corrupt var ref. First game ffs. Going to be a long season
Its about entertainment and not sporting integrity and EPL has found the perfect tool to monetize tribalism.

So in that sense its not corrupted. VAR just implemented to increase tweets and comments.

Then EPL can turn round when negotiating TV deals and say look how much traffic our product creates.

Bet even here there has been uptick in activity compared to draw been end result...
 

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