VAR

[SerenityNigh]

It's noticable that Football fought the implementation of video tech the hardest and has continually had the most issues. Every other sport makes it work.

IMO it's almost all a process issue. Trying to figure out both which of the referees is in charge and how and when do you need to go to the side of field screen. I think these are easy to answer and implement, but some of that may be a cultural issue as well.

But then again, I'm a Yank

 

[NathDogg]

"The Premier League's Key Match Incidents Panel unanimously voting that the VAR intervention to overturn Everton's penalty against Manchester United was the correct decision"

All over the news...this is corruption at the highest level. Going crazy here...this has to be raised by the football club.

Yet more evidence if any were needed that this joke of a league is a cesspit of corruption.

Beyond laughable.

If it’s all above board and kosher then there shouldn’t be any problem with them releasing unedited audio and visuals.

Everton need to do more.

 

[PeregrineT]

Right, that again just goes to show the issue isnt with VAR, its with the corruption at the top. Those in charge are the issue, and it just trickles down. The plus side is VAR shines a light on what would otherwise hide in the dark.

 

[joseph]

A vote was not held regarding De Ligt's involvement in the incident.

However, one panelist noted that 'the referee should not have been sent to the monitor as it wasn't a clear and obvious error due to the foot-on-foot contact by Maguire and shirt pull on Young by De Ligt which wasn't shown to the referee'.

Madley was only shown reviews from angles that centred over the England defender. For this reason, he was not shown the goal-mouth camera angle.

The panel has five members, made up of three former players and/or coaches, plus one representative each from the Premier League and PGMOL.

So what was the point then?! Corrupt AF!

 

[terryefc]

Just seen that. VAR was right after all

Prem panel: VAR right to scrap Everton pen vs Utd

The Premier League's Key Match Incidents Panel has ruled that the VAR intervention to cancel Everton's stoppage-time penalty against Manchester United last month was correct.

www.espn.co.uk

They must think we are stupid. It was a penalty. No clear and obvious error and De Ligt's actions have not been addressed. Corrupt to the core.

 

[Tipp blue]

I don't know if you understand how time works, but you aren't going to get an accurate review in 20s

You would if you are only looking for a clear and obvious error.

 

[dannyboy]

Just seen that. VAR was right after all

Prem panel: VAR right to scrap Everton pen vs Utd

The Premier League's Key Match Incidents Panel has ruled that the VAR intervention to cancel Everton's stoppage-time penalty against Manchester United last month was correct.

www.espn.co.uk

Just make it up as they go along. The simple fact is that doesn't get overturned at Anfield or Old Trafford. It doesn't even get looked at.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Designed to just match fix whatever decisions they want

 

[thebluenosebolt]

Designed to just match fix whatever decisions they want

That's it in a nutshell

 

[Timbucktoo]

Designed to just match fix whatever decisions they want

I thinks VAR has shown that the rules of the game are so open to being interpreted in different ways, so that what decision an on field referee makes can be overturned by another referee sitting in a closet watching a tv. The current rules of the game need to be fixed so that decisions can be made that doesn`t leave any grey areas.

 

[Blue peter]

Not bothered about the retrospective comments / reviews from ‘panels’ we should have copied Forest and asked for the recording of the real time comments when reviewing.

 

[TraffordBlue]

The Panel, and the Premier League appear to be hiding behind the explanation that the ref said it was a foul by Maguire, and therefore that was the wrong decision so it was rightly overturned.

I am almost certain that on various goals that have been checked for offside, they first check the offside, and then you hear the commentators say something along the lines of "they are now checking to see if there was an earlier handball/separate offence". That is 2 separate things they are looking at. Does anyone else remember something similar to this?

So how can they come out with these blatant lies?

 

[ToffeeTim]

Just read the stuff about this panel

Clearly another case of the PL making it up as they go along. A complete joke of a league

 

[Lanolin]

It's noticable that Football fought the implementation of video tech the hardest and has continually had the most issues. Every other sport makes it work.

I think the extent to which it works in other sports is often overstated by football fans. Lots of 'proper' fans of other sports think there are loads of issues with it, but casual observers think it's great because they aren't paying as much attention. On top of that though, it's often used for simple calls in other sports, rather than the subjective calls it's used for in football. Checking whether a ball is in or out in tennis, or whether a batsman hit the ball in cricket, are totally different things to checking whether there's sufficient contact for a penalty or a hand is in an unnatural position.

 

[toffeeblue9]

I think the extent to which it works in other sports is often overstated by football fans. Lots of 'proper' fans of other sports think there are loads of issues with it, but casual observers think it's great because they aren't paying as much attention. On top of that though, it's often used for simple calls in other sports, rather than the subjective calls it's used for in football. Checking whether a ball is in or out in tennis, or whether a batsman hit the ball in cricket, are totally different things to checking whether there's sufficient contact for a penalty or a hand is in an unnatural position.

Brilliantly articulated that mate. If a decision is binary (is the ball out, was it offside etc etc) then I don't have a problem with VAR. I have a huge problem with the subjective way it's used for fouls/handballs and the "high bar" of VAR involvement.

That VAR panel thing yesterday is the best example I've seen yet, it's the wrong outcome for the right reasons. What a load of shabite