VAR


JLW said:
Things to improve VAR:

  1. Each team has 1 challenge each half, otherwise on field decisions stands.
  2. Them challenges you can have has a time limit of 1 minute (if they still cant decide the on field decision stands)
  3. No ex or present referees as VAR officials, independent team of trained personnel.
  4. VAR only to look at one incident, not offside then when they see its on side they look for a foul somewhere else in the same passage of play.
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For me, things like time limits and No of challenges etc just add more scenarios to the mix that could make it worse and make the sport/game even worse than what it already is. VAR needs simplicity and clarity, not extra amendments; and even that still wouldn't solve the issue that it will still come down to the judgement call of the person in the box (assuming they dont just pass the buck back to the ref, who then goes to the monitor and flips a coin). The whole thing needs ripping up and redoing in simple terms for me, if it's going to exist at all.
 
Bebeto said:
Was done on purpose. The club has so far remain silent on this. I do not understand why. This is basically cheating. Var could have shown the entire play from all of the angles. Decide to just focus on young slowing it down as much as possible so it looks like a dive. Crazy...and worst thing the pgmol has the audacity to say that there was no fault...madness.
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i’m off to the PGMOL to kick off!

as i said that penalty decision gotta be the worse ever
 
ToffeeTim said:
How can any official look at an obvious shirt pull and tell another official they believe there has been a clear and obvious error

It's an absolutely laughable decision. I've seen games where the VAR has got involved to recommend a penalty for that sort of incident.

I feel like the bar for perceived smaller clubs to get a penalty is so much higher than the bigger clubs. VAR is just increasing the perception of big club bias. If that decision was in favour of a City, Arsenal, Liverpool, United etc, no one even thinks twice about it.
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We all know the penalty decision would stand if it was at the other end. As someone pointed out earlier football is now an 'entertainment' package for the global fans who are usually glory hunters so the 'fashionable' teams will always be preferred in moments such as this. Sport in general has lost its soul and unfortunately it'll get worse in future not better
 

GrandOldTeam said:
What annoys me most about it, is there's never any credible chance of it being binned.

It was brought in under assurance clear and obvious errors only.

It's an absolute farce and kills spontaneity.

It's just another tool that favours the agenda of a handful of clubs.
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There would be if managers/owners/fans make a very strong protest against it.

Problem is too many, us included, are too tribal, so we laugh when its in our favour and get furious when its not.
At the end of the day its not fit for purpose.
Goal line technology works a treat, VAR should only be called into play if its offside, (its black and white) for fouls and handballs the on field decision should not be checked as they are all subjective.
Me and you could look at penalty decision 50 times and you might say it is a penalty and might say it isnt.

Its killing the game
 
Groucho said:
Best league in the world, worst refereeing in the universe.
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Madley got it right then the thing that's meant to help him,got him to overturn his decision into an incorrect one...the fact that they didn't give him all the angles tells you all you need to know.

98 minute equaliser again Liverpool and 93 minute penalty winner against United in a week isn't what the powers that be want.
 

The only thing I hate more than VAR is the ‘it’s just a matter of getting VAR right’ lobby. It can’t be made right because football is a dynamic sport with subjective decisions. Look at tennis - was it in the line or not. Look at cricket - did he hit it or not. Binary decisions which a camera can answer. VAR cannot decide ‘was there enough contact’, whatever that means. Only a human being can do that and two human beings looking at 20 slow mo replays may still reach two different decisions.

As for today, it’s simple. Pulling shirts is a foul. His shirt was pulled - and that was established as a fact by VAR. Penalty, end of discussion.
 
southbluey said:
Also don’t understand the need to VAR every decision. I can’t remember it being used for every goal when it was introduced.
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Ironically, if I recall correctly from the first season it was brought in, it's primary purpose was to assess every goal, as that is of course the most important aspect of the game - but in the fullest extent of those words, it means every single thing in the entire passage of play has to be reviewed for ANY reason to rule out a goal, not look for reasons to rule in a goal (which is a problem with the rules that govern VAR not just VAR as a thing). That is why we have forensic levels of analysis looking for arms or hands or elbows or heels or hips that are millimeteres potentially offside (not potentially onside) even if it takes 5/6/7 minutes.
 
MaximusEvertonius said:
Just bin the whole of VAR. No challenges. Offsides is called from the side using a flag and the human eye. If it needs VAR then it wasn’t obvious either way. VAR tried to make it perfect when it already was perfect. Now it’s perfectly corrupt.
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Completely disagree, remove it and the cheaters win. Thats what they WANT. They want it binned so that they have plausible deniability with every call. When the video is there and carefully reviewed, like this, it shows everyone the cheating. It cant be denied.

VAR is just fine, its the people running it that arent, and until they are removed nothing will change in refereeing in this league.
 

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