Usmanov

[kithnou]

Yes totally agree, I was going on the assumption that @kithnou meant he was going to buy the club outright. But perhaps he meant just invest....

Correct. Sorry am on the go on the phone

 

[blue61]

Usmanov either buys into Everton, moors his mighty yacht right outside the new stadium with just a short cherrub driven charriot ride across the car park. Or, buys into them lot and queues up for the match bus with all the other tourists with a tray of curry and chips. Welcome to our new overlord.

 

[toffee-boy]

Usmanov either buys into Everton, moors his mighty yacht right outside the new stadium with just a short cherrub driven charriot ride across the car park. Or, buys into them lot and queues up for the match bus with all the other tourists with a tray of curry and chips. Welcome to our new overlord.

What sort of best mate goes and buys your arch-rival footy club, I wouldn't even do that on footy manager

 

[Yarrgh]

Always great anticipation on my behalf when I see new movement in the Usmanov thread.

Come on Uzzie. Pile that big stack of ill gotten wealth into us.

 

[blueblue]

The real point to be made out of the Liverpool story is the enormous amount of money that can be made from buying the right club, having the right manager, a sensible transfer strategy.... to be fair to FSG they have ticked these boxes. There is probably no more capital gain to be had from buying or investing in Liverpool, Everton on the other hand.....

The last piece of the jigsaw that any buyer/investor would need before committing is certainty about the cost/location/capacity of a brand spanking new stadium. Goodison is a hindrance to getting investors into the club.

 

[Chris O'Connor]

It is down here in Australia.

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/liverpool-s-american-owners-open-to-selling-off-minority-investment

Liverpool's American owners open to selling off minority investment
Updated 8 hours ago
The Premier League club was responding Thursday to the Daily Mail newspaper reporting that a relative of Manchester City owner Sheikh Mansour was exploring a takeover in the last year that valued Liverpool at 2 billion pounds ($3.5 billion AUD).
The pursuit of Liverpool did not progress. The 18-time English champions were bought in 2010 by the Fenway Sports Group, which also owns the Boston Red Sox, for 300 million pounds.



"FSG have been clear and consistent in their stance that the club is not for sale," Liverpool said in a statement. "What the ownership have said - again clearly and consistently - is that 'under the right terms and conditions we would consider taking on a minority investor, if such a partnership was to further our commercial interests in specific market places and in-line with the continued development and growth of the club and the team."'
Liverpool reached its first Champions League final in 11 years in May but lost to Real Madrid. The club was England's biggest spender ahead of the new season with a net transfer outlay of around $300 million AUD. After a fourth-placed Premier League finish in May, Jurgen Klopp's side has opened the new season with back-to-back victories as Liverpool chases a first English title since 1990.

"Any deal would have to allow the 64-year old an element of personal influence over operations and management"

Is a very telling quote, meaning any deal to get such influence is likely to involve the purchase of a significant block of shares.

FSG have been clear and consistent in their stance that the club is not for sale," Liverpool said in a statement. "What the ownership have said - again clearly and consistently - is that 'under the right terms and conditions we would consider taking on a minority investor

In order to get personal influence over 'operations and management' and not end up with the 'Arsenal' situation of a minority shareholding but no influence, he will have to build a stake large enough to do so. In effect a majority holding is needed, that could be a majority when combined with other like minded investors but certainly it would need an investment large enough for a controlling influence to be possible.

Australia has a huge Liverpool supporting fan base within the country and it is often in the interests of media over there to try and give a Liverpool slant or angle where they possibly can, even if that involves a fair amount of journalistic licence and half-truths.

 

[Darth Toffeeman]

What sort of best mate goes and buys your arch-rival footy club, I wouldn't even do that on footy manager

I did.

I managed to relegate Liverpool 3 times.
I also sactioned an absolute fortune the lowest ranked UAE player.

It was great fun.

 

[blueblue]

The piece from Joe Anderson was interesting where he almost accepts that the 7m annual income for the council from the loan surrounding the new Everton ground may be lost because of a different funding model.

Where I wonder could Everton hope to find somebody who may be prepared to help bankroll a new stadium ?

 

[rochdaleblue]

Usmanov spoke about investment opportunity and a return in his statement. Liverpool being valued at £2bn doesn’t make investing in them as any economic sense. He’s already had a ‘limited role’ at arsenal, he wouldn’t want the same under Henry at the RS. Currently what Everton is valued at, a new stadium in an iconic location and the regeneration of the surrounding area does make economic sense to an investor.

 

[Dublin blue 75]

Usmanov spoke about investment opportunity and a return in his statement. Liverpool being valued at £2bn doesn’t make investing in them as any economic sense. He’s already had a ‘limited role’ at arsenal, he wouldn’t want the same under Henry at the RS. Currently what Everton is valued at, a new stadium in an iconic location and the regeneration of the surrounding area does make economic sense to an investor.

The cynical side in me instantly links the timing of this 'minority interest for sale' kite flying exercise with that lot dropping their cacks for Usmanov. They see he is available, they fear he is drifting to ourselves with potential commercial impacts to the valuation of their own (same city and local profile dynamic) investment and this is a blocking attempt.
They likely have no interest in taking on a new investor - they have plenty of capital as it is - but by bringing him to their table in a minority capacity they would prevent him doing so with us. And protect their own investment. There are no levels to which that lot would be prepared to stoop.

 

[Chris O'Connor]

The cynical side in me instantly links the timing of this 'minority interest for sale' kite flying exercise with that lot dropping their cacks for Usmanov. They see he is available, they fear he is drifting to ourselves with potential commercial impacts to the valuation of their own (same city and local profile dynamic) investment and this is a blocking attempt.
They likely have no interest in taking on a new investor - they have plenty of capital as it is - but by bringing him to their table in a minority capacity they would prevent him doing so with us. And protect their own investment. There are no levels to which that lot would be prepared to stoop.

From what is out there in attributable quotes and as far as we can make out, Usmanov seems loathe to repeat the 'Arsenal' sitiation of a large minority shareholding and no influence, in fact he goes as far as to say he wouldn't invest without that influence.

Liverpool would give him precisely the 'Arsenal' situation, therefore it just doesn't stand up.

 

[Darth Toffeeman]

The cynical side in me instantly links the timing of this 'minority interest for sale' kite flying exercise with that lot dropping their cacks for Usmanov. They see he is available, they fear he is drifting to ourselves with potential commercial impacts to the valuation of their own (same city and local profile dynamic) investment and this is a blocking attempt.
They likely have no interest in taking on a new investor - they have plenty of capital as it is - but by bringing him to their table in a minority capacity they would prevent him doing so with us. And protect their own investment. There are no levels to which that lot would be prepared to stoop.

USM interest will be as much about the entire waterfront project, spearheaded by the Everton project, as much as for football reasons. The untapped potential is huge and the benefit, not just to the football club but the city in general, is massive.

Look at what Manchester City have achieved in a city where their rivals are far bigger than the RS on a global scale, and they where starting out from a joke club standing.

The purchase of the liver building was just the start.

 

[jayonenote]

USM interest will be as much about the entire waterfront project, spearheaded by the Everton project, as much as for football reasons. The untapped potential is huge and the benefit, not just to the football club but the city in general, is massive.

Look at what Manchester City have achieved in a city where their rivals are far bigger than the RS on a global scale, and they where starting out from a joke club standing.

The purchase of the liver building was just the start.

I have to agree with this post the Liver Building move was significant imho. The waterfront itself offers a tremendous opportunity and a chance for someone to influence a whole region. People like Usmanov think differently they like things that others cant or dont have and not necessarily physical things....respect, adoration, philantropy..making things happen that can be seen by all.
Anderson mentioned something recently about the club looking at other sources of funding besides the city loan..
We shall know more soon enough.

 

[Bluerover]

I have to agree with this post the Liver Building move was significant imho. The waterfront itself offers a tremendous opportunity and a chance for someone to influence a whole region. People like Usmanov think differently they like things that others cant or dont have and not necessarily physical things....respect, adoration, philantropy..making things happen that can be seen by all.
Anderson mentioned something recently about the club looking at other sources of funding besides the city loan..
We shall know more soon enough.

It seemed to me that the purchase of the Liver Buildings was kept completely under the radar until it was announced as done....or did I miss speculation.

The new regime strikes me as combining sufficient release of info on some matter with keeping other major material quiet until it is actually done.

Personally I prefer more of the latter to the former.

 

[4737carlin]

The piece from Joe Anderson was interesting where he almost accepts that the 7m annual income for the council from the loan surrounding the new Everton ground may be lost because of a different funding model.

Where I wonder could Everton hope to find somebody who may be prepared to help bankroll a new stadium ?

The morons who moaned about the council helping us will now moan saying were doing nothing for the City if we cut the council out