Frang
Player Valuation: £70m
I'm a multi mate.
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Foot Long Hot Dog
Player Valuation: A packet of pork scratchings
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
Mick mate, once a certain threshold (i think 60% from memory) is held then it's compulsory for the major shareholder to make an offer for all remaining shares - if it's accepted though is up to those shareholders ofc (Kroenke had to do this when he became the majority shareholder at Arsenal for example - many years ago)
There is also another trigger point - one which requires a much higher (90%) of share ownership by an individual where he can effectively make a forced purchase of all remaining shares (compulsory purchase) - this is what will happen to Arsenal for example if Usmanov does sell - Kroenke will go to well over 90% and can then just buy up all the smaller shareholders
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
Mick mate, once a certain threshold (i think 60% from memory) is held then it's compulsory for the major shareholder to make an offer for all remaining shares - if it's accepted though is up to those shareholders ofc (Kroenke had to do this when he became the majority shareholder at Arsenal for example - many years ago)
There is also another trigger point - one which requires a much higher (90%) of share ownership by an individual where he can effectively make a forced purchase of all remaining shares (compulsory purchase) - this is what will happen to Arsenal for example if Usmanov does sell - Kroenke will go to well over 90% and can then just buy up all the smaller shareholders
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
The Arsenal blog is fascinating. The most significant part is where he says in the past these offers would be rebuffed almost instantly, and unless that happens it is time for them to get worried.
I am of similar opinion. If you are not interested in a proposal you will normally reject flat out. You will also assert he has no interest in selling Arsenal, it's his boyhood club etc.
He is considering the offer. Maybe he will hold out for more. But the longer no response comes the more likely he is to accept.
I am of similar opinion. If you are not interested in a proposal you will normally reject flat out. You will also assert he has no interest in selling Arsenal, it's his boyhood club etc.
He is considering the offer. Maybe he will hold out for more. But the longer no response comes the more likely he is to accept.
It Kroenke might realise Usmanov is wavering and throw 75m extra into the pot hoping Usmanov folds and sells.
Maybe that’s what Usmanov wants him to think and maybe Kroenke knows this.
It’s a high stake poker game with no tells and waiting to see who folds first
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
I spoke to Esk recently (he is a top bloke by the way, lovely fella).
He does have connections with those towards the top of the club and also business interests that would give him some insight.
I think he would accept himself, as to an extent most of us did that he may have overestimated Moshiri and may have taken people at their word a bit too uncritically.
I have little doubt that officially and even in many cases privately Usmanov would have taken the line "I am staying at Arsenal". He could not say anything else other than that. Fifa and UEFA would have dictated that. That can't be confused with not having an interest though.
I'm surprised Esk is as intrasigent over ruling it out, id say I didn't think it could happen but it could. The situation is very fluid.
I am always surprised though people on the one hand say he doesn't know what he's talking about are often the same people quoting him as gospel (not you). He's a fella like the rest of us, in some aspects more clues up who gives his opinion on things. It's ok to take a different perspective.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
I sense that's how this deal will be done.
With TV revenues rising increasing the stake will be a sound investment. I think this offer may be rejected after a period and an invitation for a higher bid will come with both parties settling around the 600 million figure you suggest.
Usmanov will probably see that as net 400 (deducting what he paid for Moshiri shares) as being more viably invested in Everton, possibly BM and capital investments in that area. I think he is probably right.
A world class stadium in that area will be a unique draw. Soon London will have 5 stadiums to the level of the Emirates. It is a more unique opportunity for growth.
tommye
Player Valuation: £120m
Greetings Mr Wizard
Frang
Player Valuation: £70m
ay up tom. hows am ya?
tommye
Player Valuation: £120m
Surviving. And you Sir?
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
On a personal level i like Paul mate, but i dislike what his, for want of a better phrase 'on-line persona' has become.
he's a nice bloke but intransigent on certain points, and that comes across as arrogance and a bit of a know it all - a view aided by the ITK shenanigans etc, yes he understand business laws and practises a hell of a lot better than i certainly, but he has built up an image that he understands the motives and workings of people this high up the business food chain, and frankly i don't agree he does.
When a person uses their knowledge of business practise as a counter argument for anyone elses opinion, then it's a poor response and usually doesn't tackle any of the actual points raised - it's a cop-out answer 'the you don't understand these matters whilst i do' response.
Frang
Player Valuation: £70m
much the same.
awaiting huge developments that are going to turn our whole season around.
or not, as the case may be.
utterly depressing.
going from thinking, initially, that we may have a run at the top 4, too a relegation battle in true Everton style.
gotta laugh mush
blue4eva77
Yarmolenko ? Yes please
Even if Usmanov were to shop up at here, I won't make the mistake of getting excited like I did with Moshiri.
Farad has spoilt that
Farad has spoilt that
As I and @roydo have said there’s literally billions to be made in the docks
Corestate (who are a behemoth in the property world both building buying and managing large scale commercial and retail property ) buying the Liver building with Moshiri is no coincidence.
It’s like a big site office with fancy toilets and canteen facilities for the whole Liverpool Waters project.
By Usmanov and his partners investing themselves in Everton football club and therefore Liverpool City they ingratiate themselves into the community and the council.
Therefore they get preferential treatment on their plans for the docks.
They however need Everton to be a successful club in a brand new stadium to underpin their intentions and prove they are committed to the city.
Nothing stopping Usmanov investing 1 billion ( not saying he will ) in a new stadium and team to allow him to make 2 billion on the docks.
Then he has a saleable asset if he so wishes Worth more than 1 billion and 2 billion profit in the docks.
Could all be speculation but the fact that Usmanov ,Corestate ,The Chinese government State Bank are all involved and have their feet under the table at a small ( in relative terms) club like Everton makes you wonder just what the hell is going on.
Could all be pure fantasy and speculation but I’ve seen Cansry Whatf before and after
I’ve seen Dublin Docklands before and after and I’ve seen it in NYC and SAN Diego.
People and businesses like to be beside the water and they are about the only areas in the centre of big cities that allow for trouble free large scale building projects
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