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[Yarrgh]

There's no independent source there: a Ukrainian drone operator is the source for the Forbes article and a Ukraine military blogger is the source for the Telegraph!

I'll pass on those, thanks.

Did the drone operator have any footage of North Koreans fighting?

I think that this may blow up in Ukraine's face - when people who don't give two hoots about this realise there's no evidence of them being involved. They might ask what else isn't as being reported.

Russia would be advised to keep them out of combat for just this reason. Unless it's a clever bluff by the Ukrainians to keep them out as they are being overwhelmed in Kursk- they have lost over half of the total land they took.

Also given Russian and Ukrainian reports of Russia opening a new front on the northern border with Russia because it's been weakened by moving defensive forces to Kursk, this is looking ever more and more a bad strategic move. In m opiion the Ukrainians (and allegedly their ex-NATO contingent) should have been in and out and rolled out the same tactics across other areas along the border to maximise their efforts' effect on making the Russians divert more forces along their own borders and weakening the southern and eastern forces.

 

[davek]

Did the drone operator have any footage of North Koreans fighting?

I think that this may blow up in Ukraine's face - when people who don't give two hoots about this realise there's no evidence of them being involved. They might ask what else isn't as being reported.

Russia would be advised to keep them out of combat for just this reason. Unless it's a clever bluff by the Ukrainians to keep them out as they are being overwhelmed in Kursk- they have lost over half of the total land they took.

Also given Russian and Ukrainian reports of Russia opening a new front on the northern border with Russia because it's been weakened by moving defensive forces to Kursk, this is looking ever more and more a bad strategic move. In m opiion the Ukrainians (and allegedly their ex-NATO contingent) should have been in and out and rolled out the same tactics across other areas along the border to maximise their efforts' effect on making the Russians divert more forces along their own borders and weakening the southern and eastern forces.

TBH, Ive found the Ukrainian political and military hierarchy to be utter spoofers throughout this war. Very unreliable as a source.

The Russians could be bathing in the Dnipro River and Zelensky and co. would still be doing their Comical Ali routine.

 

[Toffeepot]

TBH, Ive found the Ukrainian political and military hierarchy to be utter spoofers throughout this war. Very unreliable as a source.

The Russians could be bathing in the Dnipro River and Zelensky and co. would still be doing their Comical Ali routine.

Presumably you've found an example of them spoofing discredited by a reliable source?

 

[Yarrgh]

TBH, Ive found the Ukrainian political and military hierarchy to be utter spoofers throughout this war. Very unreliable as a source.

The Russians could be bathing in the Dnipro River and Zelensky and co. would still be doing their Comical Ali routine.

I understand the need to stay positive and keep working on a way to show a route to victory but right now they look goosed.

A lot of the pro-Ukrainian stuff that gets posted on this thread should be considered propaganda, but it shouldn't be mixed up with what some of whst the Ukrainian politicians say. Zaluzhny is notable in his criticism of Ukraine's management of the war but is also probably looking to be president on the back of kicking ass in '23 and being more of a straight shooter about reality. Normally though you can tell who has raised problems that need addressing as they get reshuffled out.

 

[davek]

Presumably you've found an example of them spoofing discredited by a reliable source?

Yes. The Washington Post coverage of the Nordstream pipeline sabotage that the Ukrainians said wasn't down to them.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/11/11/nordstream-bombing-ukraine-chervinsky/

...as just one obvious example.

 

[Toffeepot]

Yes. The Washington Post coverage of the Nordstream pipeline sabotage that the Ukrainians said wasn't down to them.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/11/11/nordstream-bombing-ukraine-chervinsky/

...as just one obvious example.

I'm not buying that, especially when the intelligence is from a US source. They were the ones opposed to it all along

It could be true of course, but I'm not convinced at all

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Russia’s death economy

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

 

[bluestevon]

Russia’s death economy

I'll dip in then out of here, purely because it's hilarious to see you pisy this.
So Russia is recruiting 30k per month primarily from eastern regions, and bank deposits are massively increasing in eastern regions - equals dead russians, rather than Russians recieving very inflated recruitment salaries which are paid by.... Bank deposits.

Saw David Axe quoted earlier, the same guy whose frankly be one a laughing stock of any Russian miliblog site due to his absurd articles. Russia running out of missiles in ten days in 2022 etc.

This is a pure propaganda thread, every article is from a noted propaganda source - anyone still interested in even a semblance of the truth can look up the Atlantic council, Kiev post, moscow times economist, ISW, etc and just check who runs and funds it.

Check the sources of the twitter's linked etc,

Believe the absolute bs you are being fed, by all means but when soon it's all shown to be that don't come crying about not being informed about what's happening.

Anyway off to go feed some dogs to the host of Koreans we have in town and to make sure they all have their Viagra tablets for going into Ukraine, must mention they need to prioritise capturing toilets also.

Enjoy the cool aid gents.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

I see our vatnik thinks that Ukraine is not an independent country. Glorious potatoes.

 

[bluestevon]

I see our vatnik thinks that Ukraine is not an independent country. Glorious potatoes.

Go quote a Kagan site or ask Chatgpt for an answer.

You support Azov and the right sector, do you love Bandera as a patriot?

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Go quote a Kagan site or ask Chatgpt for an answer.

You support Azov and the right sector, do you love Bandera as a patriot?

Hi mate

 

[Ming the Merciful]

I'll dip in then out of here, purely because it's hilarious to see you pisy this.
So Russia is recruiting 30k per month primarily from eastern regions, and bank deposits are massively increasing in eastern regions - equals dead russians, rather than Russians recieving very inflated recruitment salaries which are paid by.... Bank deposits.

Saw David Axe quoted earlier, the same guy whose frankly be one a laughing stock of any Russian miliblog site due to his absurd articles. Russia running out of missiles in ten days in 2022 etc.

This is a pure propaganda thread, every article is from a noted propaganda source - anyone still interested in even a semblance of the truth can look up the Atlantic council, Kiev post, moscow times economist, ISW, etc and just check who runs and funds it.

Check the sources of the twitter's linked etc,

Believe the absolute bs you are being fed, by all means but when soon it's all shown to be that don't come crying about not being informed about what's happening.

Anyway off to go feed some dogs to the host of Koreans we have in town and to make sure they all have their Viagra tablets for going into Ukraine, must mention they need to prioritise capturing toilets also.

Enjoy the cool aid gents.

Russia have invaded a sovereign country mate.

Russia continues to kill and target civilians and civilian infrastructure mate.

Russian troops have raped, murdered and committed atrocitites against the Ukrainian people mate.

Good to see you posting on here again mate.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Russia have invaded a sovereign country mate.

Russia continues to kill and target civilians and civilian infrastructure mate.

Russian troops have raped, murdered and committed atrocitites against the Ukrainian people mate.

Good to see you posting on here again mate.

You can't say that, mate!

 

[bluestevon]

Russia have invaded a sovereign country mate.

Russia continues to kill and target civilians and civilian infrastructure mate.

Russian troops have raped, murdered and committed atrocitites against the Ukrainian people mate.

Good to see you posting on here again mate.

Look at Israel and compete it with the Ukraine, you'll see the difference in targeting civilians mate.

Russia is still awaiting a list of names of victims of both Bucha and the Mariople theatre and maternity hospital including autopsy reports btw as is the UN, none have ever been provided to either.

What's your opinion on Azov, the right sector and the veneration of Bandera mate?