davek
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Maybe but Bellingcat is overtly right wing and political.
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davek
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That goes against the assessment's of just about every expert on the conflict...or maybe 'soon' is elastic and means 2 years or so...
Its really not David.
You keep saying this, yet provide nothing to substantiate this claim.
It’s not just Bellingcat though, data is checked and verified by multiple sources. If Bellingcat were found to be publish false information then their standing in the OSINT community would be seriously degraded.
davek
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You actually want evidence that Bellingcat are not right wing bloggers and influencers...Lol.
Just do a cursory search: 'Bellingcat Right Wing'
I dunno, for some reason I honestly thought the same as Dave.
But it took me 5 minutes to realise they were a very good source.
I can only assume David is mistaken and not just trolling.
The Websites Sustaining Britain’s Far-Right Influencers - bellingcat
Threatened by deplatforming, Britain’s far-right exploits patchy online moderation to monetise hate
www.bellingcat.com
Editorial Note: As usual, all the information in this investigation comes from open sources. However, Bellingcat has decided not to link to content or profiles of people promoting hatred or disinformation, and only named those who could already be considered prominent public figures. Given the many possible pitfalls of covering far-right communities, we tried to ground our reporting and writing of this story on the principles laid out in Data & Society’s report “The Oxygenation of Amplification”.
Done.
Hmmm… let me think about that for a second
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
lolThe Websites Sustaining Britain’s Far-Right Influencers - bellingcat
Threatened by deplatforming, Britain’s far-right exploits patchy online moderation to monetise hate
Editorial Note: As usual, all the information in this investigation comes from open sources. However, Bellingcat has decided not to link to content or profiles of people promoting hatred or disinformation, and only named those who could already be considered prominent public figures. Given the many possible pitfalls of covering far-right communities, we tried to ground our reporting and writing of this story on the principles laid out in Data & Society’s report “The Oxygenation of Amplification”.
Done.
Here’s another Bellingcat expose on Finnish Nazi’s - hardly the work of a far right organisation.
Saunas and Swastikas: Finland’s Summertime neo-Nazi Meet-Up - bellingcat
Uncovering the location of this year’s ‘White Boy Summer Fest’, attended by Finnish and international neo-Nazis.
tsubaki
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Sorry but “OSINT community” is just crazy.
I’ve no bone to pick in the Bellingcat row here, but people should really be more suspicious than they are of these sites and accounts.
I mean, if you were an intelligence service and you did want to push out narratives using the information you’ve gleaned without going to the press or revealing your involvement then that would be a fantastic way of doing it.
Anyone who disagrees should go on Instagram, find a picture of some honey on a street where theres no landmarks or street signs and you’ve never been to that place, and time how long it takes to geolocate it.
davek
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They're cranks and we have people on here defending them as champions of freedom and liberty.
Intelligence is like a jigsaw - you pull pieces from everywhere and try and make a picture from it.
OSINT data is another piece of the puzzle - it can be checked, cross referenced and either discarded or used.
Thing is having a good handle on reputable sources of OSINT. There’s good and there’s Jarg - it’s knowing where to look.
It’s not perfect by any means but it’s a very useful tool if used carefully.
If an intelligence source wanted to leak information either true or false then yes they could and would use OSINT, but they’d also use regular press and media channels in parallel - so again it’s about data authenticity and integrity.
Know your sources and stick with them
Why are they cranks? And provide a quote whereby someone on here holds them up as champions of freedom and liberty?
I hold them up as champions of freedom and liberty.
Still waiting for somebody to prove otherwise.
Im waiting.
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