Current Affairs Ukraine

[Kev The Rat]

And you should be concerned about the axis of scum that's forming instead of supporting it..

I am not concerned at all as I don’t view Russia as being on the back foot as a result of the current state of play.

 

[Tipp blue]

I am not concerned at all as I don’t view Russia as being on the back foot as a result of the current state of play.

How in the world is that related to my comment?

 

[Kev The Rat]

How in the world is that related to my comment?

Because that’s my only concern as it relates to the company they keep.

 

[davek]

No, I don’t think it’s just him as a loan voice. Multiple uk politicians have said similar. Truss and Elwood to name 2. I think overall it’s a legit explanation for the fact that it’s the uk who are masterminding the Ukrainian attacks. Obviously it’s unlikely we’d ever send our own troops there but I’m fairly sure we are coordinating a lot of the military activities.

Your post above about fighting the wrong type of war is a good one though. NATO tactics work well against goat herders and rag tag terrorist groups but this is a different ball game altogether.

recall what some AFU troops said about British training. There have been several accounts the British are only training how to defend and attack single buildings, and further accounts of captured POWs saying if they did what the British trained them to do, they would have been dead.

Tbf, Elwood is a Colonel Blimp militarist who no one takes any notice of and Truss is a national joke.

But yeah, from what we can now gather the UK training up of these men for an 'anti-terror' campaign like Iraq or Afghanistan and using that in Ukraine is about as useful as a chocolate fire-guard.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

*ignore

Sorry mate

Yes, was referencing Matty in the Everton forum who says egnore

He’s never lived it down

 

[davek]

Slovakian election result...

Slovakia elections: Populist party wins vote but needs allies for coalition

Ex-PM Robert Fico, who opposes military support for Ukraine, will try to form a government.

www.bbc.co.uk

...so all the talk from the 'experts' about the 'liberal' Progressive Slovakia Party surging through late to top the polls were shown to be BS propaganda as they took 7% less of the vote than Smer-SSD.

 

[tsubaki]

Tbf, Elwood is a Colonel Blimp militarist who no one takes any notice of and Truss is a national joke.

But yeah, from what we can now gather the UK training up of these men for an 'anti-terror' campaign like Iraq or Afghanistan and using that in Ukraine is about as useful as a chocolate fire-guard.

Ellwood is usually described as a Colonel Blimp by people who’ve no idea what they are talking about - sad to see you on the same side as Mark Francois and Johnson, Dave.

 

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[davek]

Ellwood is usually described as a Colonel Blimp by people who’ve no idea what they are talking about - sad to see you on the same side as Mark Francois and Johnson, Dave.

I despise them all tbh. I make no distinction between any of them. All war mongers and all Tories.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

If it helps dave, the headline said that but it was shot through with the usual qualifiers - he'd only had talks with senior Army leaders about eventually helping etc etc. He also mentioned about the Royal Navy helping in the Black Sea, ignoring the fact that the Turks have closed the straits meaning no warship not based in the Black Sea can get in so we'd basically be giving pointers.

It is a risible piece, on the one hand from a known liar and on the other from a newspaper whose bias is such that to do even the slightest bit of fact checking would be to destroy what they were putting out - all the article represents is yet more personal posturing from an absolute cretin, at a time when immense seriousness and focus of effort is required.

I read that the plan is to gift 2 minesweepers to the Romanian Navy to assist in de-mining the Black sea shipping lanes. This would circumvent the Bosporous strait blockade issue.

 

[Kev The Rat]

I read that the plan is to gift 2 minesweepers to the Romanian Navy to assist in de-mining the Black sea shipping lanes. This would circumvent the Bosporous strait blockade issue.

So you think this is actually a goer then? Haha

 

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[Mutzo Nutzo]

So you think this is actually a goer then? Haha

Yappa yappa.

Er yes. Apparently so

Romania will buy European Submarines, Minesweepers and American Tanks - Novinite.com - Sofia News Agency

Romania will buy two second-hand British minesweepers and two French submarines as part of the Romanian army's re-equipment programmes, local media reported. The leaders of both chambers of the Romanian Parliament have approved the initiation of procurement procedures related to some of the...

m.novinite.com

 

[Kev The Rat]

Yappa yappa.

Er yes. Apparently so

It says they were planning to buy minesweepers

Nothing at all about where or when they were to be used

 

[Kev The Rat]

@davek

The UK media obfuscation of the withholding of $6Bn news should be ringing alarm bells for all those who still believe in a free press. Looks like some are coming around, slowly.

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House rejects Ukraine aid in spending bill, despite Pentagon lobbying​

New government spending bill dramatically raises prospect Congress will reject Biden funding request for Ukraine.​

The House of Representatives approved a government spending deal Saturday on a bipartisan basis that left out aid to Ukraine, rejecting warnings from Pentagon officials who made a last-minute push for the assistance...

...“If you're telling the American people with a straight face you will shut down the American government over Ukraine, then shame on you,” Lawler said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/09/30/ukraine-aid-government-shutdown/​