Current Affairs Ukraine

[The binman chronicles]

The most obvious:

From Russia with Love.

From Russia don't drink the tea.

 

[davids]

Exactly how was a man not in the military, not a politician, allowed to wander into various gaols and release tens of thousands of murderers, rapists and assorted villains? Was Putin unaware of this? Who gave the orders? Please do not insult fellow posters by suggesting that Putin was not fully bought into this……..

It's obvious he did and this execution is just more evidence of what a ruthless psychopath he is. Yet strangely people think he wouldn't go nuclear.

 

[PhilM]

It's obvious he did and this execution is just more evidence of what a ruthless psychopath he is. Yet strangely people think he wouldn't go nuclear.

I would have liked the first part, yet there is a sizeable difference between acts like this (if committed by Russia state) and the use of nuclear weapons.

It's been show that there's little international appetite to openly counter these blatant Russian acts bar a few harsh words - behind the scenes, who knows.

But, the use of a nuclear weapon, even a smaller tactical one, would induce a very strong response. For Putin, there's no need for him to use one based on that.

Having them alone, with the principle of MAD, keeps their position much stronger than the likes of Hussein or Milosević - the west at a relative arm's length.

 

[The binman chronicles]

I would have liked the first part, yet there is a sizeable difference between acts like this (if committed by Russia state) and the use of nuclear weapons.

It's been show that there's little international appetite to openly counter these blatant Russian acts bar a few harsh words - behind the scenes, who knows.

But, the use of a nuclear weapon, even a smaller tactical one, would induce a very strong response. For Putin, there's no need for him to use one based on that.

Having them alone, with the principle of MAD, keeps their position much stronger than the likes of Hussein or Milosević - the west at a relative arm's length.

I would imagine China would have to drop all relations with Russia like a hot potato after an attack which I would hazard to guess would be really bad for Putin as things stand. It's just another reason amongst the myriad why it shouldn't happen.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Lol tribute paid and full investigation promised... odds on the findings blaming the Ukes or internal enemies?

 

[COYBL25]

Lol tribute paid and full investigation promised... odds on the findings blaming the Ukes or internal enemies?

They’ll wheel some poor soul out, call him a terrorist and execute him.

Job done.

 

[davids]

I would have liked the first part, yet there is a sizeable difference between acts like this (if committed by Russia state) and the use of nuclear weapons.

It's been show that there's little international appetite to openly counter these blatant Russian acts bar a few harsh words - behind the scenes, who knows.

But, the use of a nuclear weapon, even a smaller tactical one, would induce a very strong response. For Putin, there's no need for him to use one based on that.

Having them alone, with the principle of MAD, keeps their position much stronger than the likes of Hussein or Milosević - the west at a relative arm's length.

He has made through his phoney referendum the Donbass Russian soil which he now can't afford to lose. If he uses theatre nuclear weapons to defend it do you honestly believe that the US and NATO would make a major strike and risk large parts of their populations over less than twenty percent of Ukraine?

 

[davids]

I would imagine China would have to drop all relations with Russia like a hot potato after an attack which I would hazard to guess would be really bad for Putin as things stand. It's just another reason amongst the myriad why it shouldn't happen.

Putin is a narcissistic psychopath for him people have no value ten,ten thousand,ten million they are just barriers to him which he will get out of the way whichever way suits him at the time.

 

[Kev The Rat]

It's obvious he did and this execution is just more evidence of what a ruthless psychopath he is. Yet strangely people think he wouldn't go nuclear.

Lazy comments to describe Putin as a psychopath. If anything he keeps dangerous elements on a leash, and calmly deals with them when the time is right.

 

[Kev The Rat]

Putin solved the insurrection problem without tearing the nation apart. Message sent to other aspiring mutineers. Russian unity higher than ever. Prighozin and Wagner leaders honored as heroes in death for their accomplishments.

 

[davids]

Lazy comments to describe Putin as a psychopath. If anything he keeps dangerous elements on a leash, and calmly deals with them when the time is right.

He did,using polonium and nerve agents on UK soil. I'm sure the US eliminate their perceived enemies,but either quietly or made to look like accidents. Putin is very public with the way he deals with anyone who crosses him.

 

[Mrk]

Putin solved the insurrection problem without tearing the nation apart. Message sent to other aspiring mutineers. Russian unity higher than ever. Prighozin and Wagner leaders honored as heroes in death for their accomplishments.

I'm curious, does the Kremlin transmit your posts directly to you, or do they come through your third-party Ukrainian university lecturer contacts in Kyiv?

 

[Kev The Rat]

He did,using polonium and nerve agents on UK soil. I'm sure the US eliminate their perceived enemies,but either quietly or made to look like accidents. Putin is very public with the way he deals with anyone who crosses him.

Probably but I’m not convinced it makes him a psychopath. As you say mi6 and cia will pull the same tricks but the media is controlled by the USA so you don’t hear about it

 

[PhilM]

He has made through his phoney referendum the Donbass Russian soil which he now can't afford to lose. If he uses theatre nuclear weapons to defend it do you honestly believe that the US and NATO would make a major strike and risk large parts of their populations over less than twenty percent of Ukraine?

Firstly, I doubt he would use them because of the expected response. But from that, I suspect it all depends on what you mean by a strong response.

That's not trying to deflect your question and point, rather I really don't know what it would constitute - I can only surmise. A nuclear response? Unlikely.

If it was on a NATO country, it would certainly warrant one. For Ukraine, it's far less likely, however to not respond at all would open the proverbial Pandora's box.

Every country with nuclear weapons would know they could use them in localised conflicts if not fighting a NATO or its equivalent, and that could spiral.

What do I think the response would be? Possibly sinking the Black Sea Fleet or a serious precision striker on key Russian assets and whatnot.

You'll likely respond with, well they have nuclear weapons and may response in kind, and that's where MAD comes in. It is in nobody's interest to let it spiral.

Hence, why I strongly believe Russia won't use them.

He did,using polonium and nerve agents on UK soil. I'm sure the US eliminate their perceived enemies,but either quietly or made to look like accidents. Putin is very public with the way he deals with anyone who crosses him.

Maybe contradicting myself slightly here, but Putin's brashness is almost laughable. Only him and the Israelis are so brazen to openly assisatnate on foreign soil.

 

[Kev The Rat]

Firstly, I doubt he would use them because of the expected response. But from that, I suspect it all depends on what you mean by a strong response.

That's not trying to deflect your question and point, rather I really don't know what it would constitute - I can only surmise. A nuclear response? Unlikely.

If it was on a NATO country, it would certainly warrant one. For Ukraine, it's far less likely, however to not respond at all would open the proverbial Pandora's box.

Every country with nuclear weapons would know they could use them in localised conflicts if not fighting a NATO or its equivalent, and that could spiral.

What do I think the response would be? Possibly sinking the Black Sea Fleet or a serious precision striker on key Russian assets and whatnot.

You'll likely respond with, well they have nuclear weapons and may response in kind, and that's where MAD comes in. It is in nobody's interest to let it spiral.

Hence, why I strongly believe Russia won't use them.

Maybe contradicting myself slightly here, but Putin's brashness is almost laughable. Only him and the Israelis are so brazen to openly assisatnate on foreign soil.

If MAD exists - and although I agree countries may well pay lip service to it - but I’m not sure it does in reality - then it’s likely the reason why Russia will actually never be ejected from Ukraine.

As for US assassinations on foreign soil - here you go:

List of assassinations by the United States - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Note the large number of attempts to assassinate heads of state

Again you won’t hear about them because the media is subservient