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Weird that people forget that A, most Russians are just normal people who don’t want this war, and B, that tonnes of explosions in Russian cities almost guarantees nuclear war
Most of these explosions will be viable (non-civilian) targets. While Russia destroys everything it can see, women and kids included, a few well placed UKE explosions inside Russia is nothing but justified. If anything, they are being lenient.
 
France will now supply Ukraine with AMX light tanks

Germany has done an about turn and will be shipping Marder IFV’s to Ukraine

To cap it all off the US will likely announce this week, the supply of Bradley IFV’s for Ukraine.

This is a huge reverse in policy and a clear indication that the west for the first time can see an end to this war and a victory for Ukraine.
 
France will now supply Ukraine with AMX light tanks

Germany has done an about turn and will be shipping Marder IFV’s to Ukraine

To cap it all off the US will likely announce this week, the supply of Bradley IFV’s for Ukraine.

This is a huge reverse in policy and a clear indication that the west for the first time can see an end to this war and a victory for Ukraine.

Not sure about that - a lot of the Western support for Ukraine has (and there is a really good example of this mentioned in your post) been of the ad-hoc and un-coordinated kind. Supplying three different sorts of IFV Ithe French are also supplying one with the AMX-30s) is going to cause more logistical problems than supply the same overall amount of one IFV type would, and I think countries should focus on that rather than assembling a mish-mash of bits of kit working alongside a mish-mash of Soviet era stuff, all using different ammo.

It should really have been sorted out long before now who was going to supply and then continue resupply of whatever bit of kit for as long as is required. This should be easy with the common stuff (MLRS pods used by HIMARS and the other MRLS we've supplied, 155mm artillery rounds etc) but it needs to happen with the rest.
 
Not sure about that - a lot of the Western support for Ukraine has (and there is a really good example of this mentioned in your post) been of the ad-hoc and un-coordinated kind. Supplying three different sorts of IFV Ithe French are also supplying one with the AMX-30s) is going to cause more logistical problems than supply the same overall amount of one IFV type would, and I think countries should focus on that rather than assembling a mish-mash of bits of kit working alongside a mish-mash of Soviet era stuff, all using different ammo.

It should really have been sorted out long before now who was going to supply and then continue resupply of whatever bit of kit for as long as is required. This should be easy with the common stuff (MLRS pods used by HIMARS and the other MRLS we've supplied, 155mm artillery rounds etc) but it needs to happen with the rest.
In the broad scheme of things I would tend to agree. However Ukrainian armed forces have to-date demonstrated an unprecedented level of flexibility and improvisation in munging multiple variants of supplied military hardware into cohesive and very effective force multipliers and I think western powers have taken this into consideration.

NATO has also setup a very effective supply chain logistics platform run simply on an app on a smartphone. So if a Ukrainian is in need of support or replacement parts for a supplied weapons platform they simply use the app and get connected directly to either a NATO weapons specialist or supply chain In Ramstein where a replacement is immediately shipped.

Long term solutions for Ukraine will absolutely rely on identified integrated NATO weapons systems. 155mm and 105mm artillery, HIMARS, NASAMs, patriot, etc, along with their established supply chains…excuse the number of acronyms. For now Ukraine will take anything on offer and integrate it and make it work for them.
 
In the broad scheme of things I would tend to agree. However Ukrainian armed forces have to-date demonstrated an unprecedented level of flexibility and improvisation in munging multiple variants of supplied military hardware into cohesive and very effective force multipliers and I think western powers have taken this into consideration.

NATO has also setup a very effective supply chain logistics platform run simply on an app on a smartphone. So if a Ukrainian is in need of support or replacement parts for a supplied weapons platform they simply use the app and get connected directly to either a NATO weapons specialist or supply chain In Ramstein where a replacement is immediately shipped.

Long term solutions for Ukraine will absolutely rely on identified integrated NATO weapons systems. 155mm and 105mm artillery, HIMARS, NASAMs, patriot, etc, along with their established supply chains…excuse the number of acronyms. For now Ukraine will take anything on offer and integrate it and make it work for them.
That app is nuts! Can’t the Russians interfere with it? Captured phone or something?
 
In the broad scheme of things I would tend to agree. However Ukrainian armed forces have to-date demonstrated an unprecedented level of flexibility and improvisation in munging multiple variants of supplied military hardware into cohesive and very effective force multipliers and I think western powers have taken this into consideration.

NATO has also setup a very effective supply chain logistics platform run simply on an app on a smartphone. So if a Ukrainian is in need of support or replacement parts for a supplied weapons platform they simply use the app and get connected directly to either a NATO weapons specialist or supply chain In Ramstein where a replacement is immediately shipped.

Long term solutions for Ukraine will absolutely rely on identified integrated NATO weapons systems. 155mm and 105mm artillery, HIMARS, NASAMs, patriot, etc, along with their established supply chains…excuse the number of acronyms. For now Ukraine will take anything on offer and integrate it and make it work for them.
It's important to note that the move to supply certain tanks and IFVs (Bradleys from US, French AMX-30s etc.) is primarily a short to medium term measure.

In the long-term, Ukraine will be equipped with a smaller, more standardised arsenal, but right now it's about restocking the losses they've encountered.

Russia is going to throw thousands of troops (err conscripts), mechanised infantry and tanks at Ukraine when the weather improves, which has to be countered.

The equipment they'll throw likely will be legacy stock (from reserves etc.), yet it'll still have some impact, which means Ukraine will need to counter it.

While a haphazard array of weaponry comes with difficulties, it'll provide the opportunity to hold ground and then, hopefully, go on the offensive themselves.
 
It's important to note that the move to supply certain tanks and IFVs (Bradleys from US, French AMX-30s etc.) is primarily a short to medium term measure.

In the long-term, Ukraine will be equipped with a smaller, more standardised arsenal, but right now it's about restocking the losses they've encountered.

Russia is going to throw thousands of troops (err conscripts), mechanised infantry and tanks at Ukraine when the weather improves, which has to be countered.

The equipment they'll throw likely will be legacy stock (from reserves etc.), yet it'll still have some impact, which means Ukraine will need to counter it.

While a haphazard array of weaponry comes with difficulties, it'll provide the opportunity to hold ground and then, hopefully, go on the offensive themselves.
Cleverly now talking about shipping MBT’s to Ukraine!!!
 
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