Agree. How many times have we seen us being interested in the talented players only to see them flourish elsewhere? I remember when we wouldnāt pay a 20m fee for Maddison at Norwich and Maddison wasnāt even close to Dibling in terms of ability and potential. Leicester paid it and they then doubled their money selling him to Spurs for 40. Itās as plain as the nose on your face that Dibling would be a shrewd investment and has the potential to explode with a good club in the next few years. People keep saying itās a gamble, is it really? I canāt see him flopping to the point he wouldnāt even at least hold his current value. The boy is going places, heās a very talented player.
Agree with this too. Kinnear and Hammond are coming in for a lot of stick here, but to be fair, we donāt know what budget theyāre dealing with. Iām not convinced the money from the owners is there to do this deal either. Weāve already spent a chunk of coin without bringing any in, we might already be close to the net spend budget for this year. None of us know.
We also still donāt know whether the money IS there, but weāre still sailing close to PSR and doing as much as we can within those boundaries. Citizens of Suburbia on X is of that train of thought and heās usually very good with crunching the numbers.
Maddison and also of course Wharton available at circa Ā£20mil after we supposedly scouted him for years.
In isolation, each ot Barry, KDH, Grealish, Alcaraz Anzou, Travers, King are probably good deals.
Overall though, someone posted a link to an Everton site yesterday or the day before showing each players fee & also add ons.
From memory:
KDH Ā£25mil + Ā£4mil add ons
Barry Ā£27.5mil + Ā£5mil add ons
Alcaraz Ā£12.5mil
Grealish Ā£12mil
Anzou Ā£7.6mil + Ā£2.6mil add ons
Travers Ā£4mil + Ā£3mil add ons
King Ā£undisclosed
Ā£88.6mil + Ā£14.6mil in add ons
= Potentially Ā£103.2mil
At the end of the season, if lets say
@The Bobble had postef that we had all of those players agreed for 1st week of July....
...we'd surely be thinking our spend by August 20th must be around Ā£200mil.
Simply because we'd expect to have RB, RW & DM filled with quality players.
I'm certain some players or perhaps even all of them will come good.
But to spend these amounts without signing a single player we actually needed above any of those makes this window, so far a total write off.
A Dibling or Fofana takes this to a 5/10 for me. A similar profile RB 7/10 and a 6 becomes a 9/10.
They have little time to turn this around.
I do think we still have money to spend but not enough for him. I also think moyes is being bloody minded with targets and needs piping down.
In reality we don't need a world beater on the right wing yet, especially if we don't have the funds ( we possibly need to get into a lower level European qualification cycle for that)
Anyone half decent will make a massive difference as the midfield just has no balance at all. It should not be this difficult to get someone in. Maybe the penny will drop now and we'll be more pragmatic.
It should not be this difficult to upgrade on Jack Harrison without breaking the bank. There's a whole world of players out there. Moyes probably needs to look further than the end of his nose.
We need a top prospect or a top player at both RB & RW and a 6.
A team is only as good as its weakest part.
Wow, how daft can someone be?
Sorry about the name but apparently Soule is only valued at 30m euros?
Cant be true.
weāve bid 3 times, he wants to come and we want him, im
Peed off that the club arenāt biting the bullet and getting this done
we will be paying over the odds whoever we go for now,
So you may as well go for a player you want. Fatawu will be 40, Iāve seen Trincao mentioned, not sure how much heād cost, but heās already failed in tbe league once.
If it doesnāt happen, we will massively regret not getting Dibling in a couple of years.
I dont see us losing money on him unless he suffered a major injury.
The thing is Simon, we canāt attract Eze like we havenāt been able too for a couple of wingers, one went to juve, Forfana said no.
We are shopping in a different market to
Spurs
Hutchinson is 37mil, fatawu will be 40mi
The winger at Bournemouth who has hardly pulled up any trees has gone to Brentford for 42mil. Itās mental, but it where weāre
How its got to this stage without 3 major weaknesses being addressed is beyond me.
As
@GrandOldTeam quoted, Moyes is a major part of the decision making process.
Known as a ditherer and apparently Hammond as a penny pincher, theyre both on the noose for me with this.
Spoke to a saints fan yesterday and he said he is the closest thing to bale he has seen play for them
Just his dribbling and spacial awareness put him in the 'special' category.
I think if we had moved for Dibling back in June and been quoted similar we should have done the deal.
But apparently people who havent seen him play, and those who know better than Southampton dont believe hes worth the fee???
. Weāll be able to see what weāve bought then. Then Iāll know whether to fume or not. Not fuming when e we can still do business.
