Current Affairs Trouble Brewing....

[peteblue]

So, we have Greece v Turkey and USA v China, all over who controls which bit of water.

Greece are obviously going with the UNCLOS definitions, consideringhow close their islands are to Turkey.



Turkey of course want a more pragmatic view of how the Aegean and Med are shared out amongst the various countries when it come to what is under the Sea. Meanwhile China has completely ignored UNCLOS and uses its own nine dash line, an arbitrary drawing showing that they ’own‘ the whole of the South China Sea.

France is already throwing its weight around to show the EU that they are the natural leaders of the EU forces and the USA is maintaining its legal right to sail where it wishes in International waters.

One of these is going to come to blows, my guess being Greece and Turkey, because Greece will believe that the EU will back it up.....

 

[-Rob-]

Wouldn't it be a far nicer world to live in if we had no recognised borders?

 

[Ruairi77]

...well you probably shouldn't have opened a pub then

 

[Brennan]

Wouldn't it be a far nicer world to live in if we had no recognised borders?

No.

 

[Debunkology]

Wouldn't it be a far nicer world to live in if we had no recognised borders?

I think that world is called "cloud cuckoo land"

 

[john jako]

So, we have Greece v Turkey and USA v China, all over who controls which bit of water.

Greece are obviously going with the UNCLOS definitions, consideringhow close their islands are to Turkey.

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Turkey of course want a more pragmatic view of how the Aegean and Med are shared out amongst the various countries when it come to what is under the Sea. Meanwhile China has completely ignored UNCLOS and uses its own nine dash line, an arbitrary drawing showing that they ’own‘ the whole of the South China Sea.

France is already throwing its weight around to show the EU that they are the natural leaders of the EU forces and the USA is maintaining its legal right to sail where it wishes in International waters.

One of these is going to come to blows, my guess being Greece and Turkey, because Greece will believe that the EU will back it up.....

The US basically have a naval base in Greece. They will be all over turkey if they step out of line.

Agree though, it’s very unsettled at the moment.

 

[-Rob-]

I think that world is called "cloud cuckoo land"

Or CCL for short

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

End of NATO if two of its members spark off... Still the odds are stacked against Turkey, in maritime law and the many other countries that have vested interest in region, Egypt Israel etc. Anyway diminishing returns fossil fuel (Gas).
Unfortunately Erogdan will play silly with Syrian refugees.

 

[Huyton Layne]

Mad that the Greeks and Turks hate each other when there's probably a lot of genetic mixing due to the Byzantine and Ottoman empires.

 

[Prevenger17]

I love how Piotrblue's hatred of the EU oozes off every post

 

[tsubaki]

Mad that the Greeks and Turks hate each other when there's probably a lot of genetic mixing due to the Byzantine and Ottoman empires.

Not as much as you’d think, and the expulsions / genocide post 1918 removed a lot of the shared populations.

Erdogan will get his arse kicked if he ever tries anything military by the way.

 

[zzr45]

Title is misleading. There’s more trouble brewing in happyland where Bo-bo the bear has burned the cakes ahead of the big picnic this afternoon. However will Bo-bo get out of this one?

Greece vs Turkey will result in a drawn out stalemate that ends with a treaty being signed that in reality has less value than Bo-bos burnt cake.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

Wouldn't it be a far nicer world to live in if we had no recognised borders?

It would be amazing. Which is why your house now belongs to me and my big stick.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

Title is misleading. There’s more trouble brewing in happyland where Bo-bo the bear has burned the cakes ahead of the big picnic this afternoon. However will Bo-bo get out of this one?

Greece vs Turkey will result in a drawn out stalemate that ends with a treaty being signed that in reality has less value than Bo-bos burnt cake.

Isnt the entire modern history of Greece and Turkey one big drawn out stalemate?