No arguments with any of that mate, Willaims and Jagielka are possibly the worst of the lot for it - which given both have been long term club and one an international captain is absolutely criminal.
can maybe give a bit of a pass for a few of the others (sigurdsson etc) as they are new and have found themselves in a situation i can't believe they ever imagined and must be a bit shell shocked.
but others like Baines (love him but he's finished) Schneiderlin, Gueye (who frankly never looks arsed win lose or draw and is always smiling - same as Holgate tbf whose only a kid though)
Maybe it's a product of them being that concerned with how terrible they have been themselves that they are just going into shells now and it's a case of them all being more worried about them rather than a team collective.
Jags has always been a poor captain, Williams i literally can't stand seeing play for us now (having actually rated him before he came) both are needed booting from the side asap, rather play with a young kid next to keane who may actually try and look arsed if we lose than either of those to giving it the pre and post match talks about how we need to fight etc and stick together when they don't show an ounce of that on the pitch.
Should have signed Sakho from the rs during the summer in hindsight, least the lad has a bit of bottle about him